Will the plane take off?? Finally going to be answered.***

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

But if the plane and the treadmill are moving at the same speed in the opposite directions how does it create any lift to take off?//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

Go reread what myself and Joe have written. Read slowly. Read carefully.

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

But if the plane and the treadmill are moving at the same speed in the opposite directions how does it create any lift to take off?//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

LIFT!!!!

Actually the plane and treadmill are moving at ~1670 km/hr anyway... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/woot.gif.aaa6090e619a97b6090d16dd863c5a69.gif for Science... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

Actually, //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/woot.gif.aaa6090e619a97b6090d16dd863c5a69.gif for mathematics...

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

How can lift be created if air isn't going across the wings?
No it will not take off, but we won't concretely know because they will botch it.

You are an idiot.

nG

 

[jmanpc 5,000+ posts]

Again; The wheels aren't drive wheels, they are free spinning. The rate at which the wheels are spinning is not going to determine the speed of the plane; The thrust of the engine (less various frictions) is what determines the speed of the plane.
Think again about my comment regarding the hot wheels car and the treadmill. Your hand is providing the thrust to move the vehicle forward, not the wheels. You simply need to apply enough force to overcome the friction of the wheels (which will be small) and you'll easily be able to push the hot wheels forward.

Same concept applies to the airplane.

Yeah, I see what you're saying there

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

You are an idiot.
nG

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

Indeed... I took physics 4 years ago and this still seems like a simple force problem... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

I laugh at all the simpleton morons here...

What tards.

nG

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

I will be making a public poll, with two answers.

Those who answer incorrectly, shall be banned.

Willing to take the bet, are you that confident in yourself? We'll see...

nG

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

I laugh at all the simpleton morons here...
What tards.

nG

I

It does so damn much it is silly...

 

[jmanpc 5,000+ posts]

hardly, the F22 has been in service for a few years already and it does not have V/STOL capability
he's referring to the JSF

Isn't that something of a modified F22? I know there's a lot more than meets the eye, but aren't they somewhat on the same platform?

 

[mr Tibbs 10+ year member]

I guess I'm just not seeing how any lift can be created if the plane is moving at 0 miles per hour. If the plane does not move forward how can there be any wind? I'ma confused.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

 

[93EXT 10+ year member]

But if the plane and the treadmill are moving at the same speed in the opposite directions how does it create any lift to take off?//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

or if the treadmills faster and the plane goes backwards.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif

 

[jmanpc 5,000+ posts]

I guess I'm just not seeing how any lift can be created if the plane is moving at 0 miles per hour. If the plane does not move forward how can there be any wind? I'ma confused.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

read joetama's post with the pic.

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

I guess I'm just not seeing how any lift can be created if the plane is moving at 0 miles per hour. If the plane does not move forward how can there be any wind? I'ma confused.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

Idiot.

or if the treadmills faster and the plane goes backwards.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif

Idiot.

nG

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

I guess I'm just not seeing how any lift can be created if the plane is moving at 0 miles per hour. If the plane does not move forward how can there be any wind? I'ma confused.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

The plane ISN'T moving at 0 mph.

The plane is moving at take off speed (lets say 100 mph) and the treadmill is moving at the same speed in the opposite direction (100 mph). But, this doesn't matter, because these values are relative to ground speed (air speed if you like). If they were relative to each other the plane would be moving a 200 mph.

The only part of the plane that touches the treadmill is the wheels. The wheels have NOTHING to do with the plane flying (you know the wheels touch nothing once the plane is in the air //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif)

What makes the plane fly is the movement of air over the wings. What causes the movement of air is the movement of the plane. What causes the movement of the plane is the force generated by the engines. The treadmill has no effect on the movement of the air, the plane(except minimal amounts of friction generated by the wheels spinning), or the engines.

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

Isn't that something of a modified F22? I know there's a lot more than meets the eye, but aren't they somewhat on the same platform?

Not even close...