Why pay more for a JL audio amp?

[dragnix 5,000+ posts]

not very efficient amp

 

[J31Rob 5,000+ posts]

Are those RCA's spl or sq?

rofl... what?

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

only draw back to the jl slash sub amps are the fact they are a little more inefficient. other than that if you want those features and a non cookie cutter amp and can afford them why not get one? sheesh lol

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

not very efficient amp

So upgrade your charging system //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[dragnix 5,000+ posts]

So upgrade your charging system //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Not my amp, it's someone's else, so i'm not worried //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

But yes, i need to upgrade my charging system //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

 

[dragnix 5,000+ posts]

only draw back to the jl slash sub amps are the fact they are a little more inefficient. other than that if you want those features and a non cookie cutter amp and can afford them why not get one? sheesh lol

another 1000watts amp and an external processor/eq would probably be cheaper //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

another 1000watts amp and an external processor/eq would probably be cheaper //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

you could say that about alot of amps...not just JL

 

[dragnix 5,000+ posts]

true true

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

My fault, they compared only 4 amps, so obviously Tru Zapco and Genesis were top 3. IMO they are all better than JL. Here is the link. http://www.caraudiomag.com/technical/0509cae_car_audio_testing/index.html

I think if you read the entire article, you will find that Car Audio Mag performs their testing in a very non-biased and controlled environment. Mobile Dynamics provided the facilities.

http://www.audiogroupforum.com/csforum/showthread.php?t=44178&page=3

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

i can also remember a time when people were saying other subs like the Brahma and old XXX were better than a W7. taking alot of things into consideration the w7 was still superior in a lot of fields. 80% of the "it's better" came from prices at the time. that isnt hardly a "better" reason...may be a preffered reason but not better.

 

[jmanpc 5,000+ posts]

Sorry I'm late. I'm here to piss off Squeak.

 

[dragnix 5,000+ posts]

i can also remember a time when people were saying other subs like the Brahma and old XXX were better than a W7. taking alot of things into consideration the w7 was still superior in a lot of fields. 80% of the "it's better" came from prices at the time. that isnt hardly a "better" reason...may be a preffered reason but not better.

that's one of the main reason tho //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[helotaxi 5,000+ posts]

that's one of the main reason tho //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

That's like arguing that a Vette is a "better" car than an Enzo because it's cheaper. The Vette might be great for the money, but the Enzo is great for any money. Price is not related to overall merit. Something might be a bargain but when judging on actual merit, price is not a variable in the equation.

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

It works the other way as well, at the opposite end of the spectrum...when you're trying to justify the difference between a $20,000 SME turntable and a $100,000 Continuum one //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

No matter what the price is, it all comes down to what you can fit in your budget, and getting the most performance for what you want to do in those constraints.

 

[helotaxi 5,000+ posts]

No matter what the price is, it all comes down to what you can fit in your budget, and getting the most performance for what you want to do in those constraints.

Right. Really my point exactly. "Best for the money" and "best" are two very different things though. Just because the "best" isn't in your budget doesn't make the best within your budget any better on the whole. It just makes it the best for your budget. When you use the word "best" without the qualification of "for the money," then money isn't an issue and plays no part in the comparison.

There are amps that can do more power into lower loads for less money. There are amps made with more expensive components for less money (though they make less power, usually). There are few amps that can make the amount of power as the JLs into 4 ohms (where you usually run an amp for most car audio apps for mids and highs anyway) with the quality level of the JLs for the same price. In that vein the JLs are not that expensive. Figure that the mono amps are about $1 per watt and the stereo/4 channel models are around $1.50-$1.75 a watt for JL. Price out Helix amps. Even at a discount you're looking at more than $2/watt for the mid level ESPRIT line. Move up to the Competition line and you're looking at $3+ per watt. That's at a discount without a warranty. Retail with warranty and you're talking about another $1 per watt. Tell me again how JL is expensive among its peers?