Why haven't I switched to android a long time ago?

Any android users know if my logic is correct, I want to get an Android for the freedom and hardware power. The Note 3, with it's 3GB of RAM and 2.3 gHz processor will be great for ROMs correct? Or does it go deeper than hardware with these? Would the HTC One, S4, or something else be a better choice despite the weaker internals?
Look into which phones have locked bootloaders, large communities with devs, etc. The best phones for roms are nexus phones. They already run AOSP software.

The Galaxy lineup is one of the top Android phone lineups. Development for them is usually great. The hardware in the s4 will last for several more years. I have mine running with only 2 cores, underclocked and it's still smooth as butter.

HTC tends to have locked bootloaders and less devs.

I'll be going with the note 3 or the new nexus (so far)

 

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Who's your carrier, homie?
The S4 is unlocked GSM. Right now I'm rolling with T-mobile

 
Switched over from the iphone 4s to the samsung note 3 which just came out. I had the iphone 4s for almost 2 years and has been a great phone but this new samsung note 3 blows it away!
android>apple
So because you switched from a 3 yr old phone to a brand new one it's all of the sudden better? Note 2 or note 3 I've got friends with both and they hate them. Only reason one still keeps his is because of his hands being fat so the iPhone is too small for him. The other got his as a gift from his mother so he's not about to throw it away.

Apart from being able to look like a faggotty hipster at Starbucks I see no point in any Apple product.
I have pre-ordered the Note III which is supposedly shipping Thursday. Been using Andriod for ages now Wifi tether is priceless (free if you root your phone), SPL Labs meter uses Android, some Torrent clients, and there's a couple good PS One Emulators so I can play me some FF7, 8, and 9.... gaming should be excellent on the larger screen. Using the S3 now which is quite nice, wouldn't have even upgraded but Verizon had a glitch for a few days that let you get a subsidized phone and not dump your unlimited data.
You see no point? Well when you own a business and use apps to assist you (not just play games) you'll understand why Apple (not just iphone) is the choice. Many more apps that are actually useful. #1 cutlist plus, but then again many android fanatics like "free" apps only. Which is their main gripe with apple.

iphones are for old people and women who are not into tech, i am glad i got rid of my along time ago, i love android
Lol I find that funny. Ipad is for home use, ipad mini for the truck and business meetings, iPhone for myself. All has the same pictures and media so if a customer stops me and wants to discuss pricing, projects, work, or just how their project is coming along I've got all the pictures and video to show them without having to tell them to wait while I go find it.

 
So because you switched from a 3 yr old phone to a brand new one it's all of the sudden better? Note 2 or note 3 I've got friends with both and they hate them. Only reason one still keeps his is because of his hands being fat so the iPhone is too small for him. The other got his as a gift from his mother so he's not about to throw it away.


You see no point? Well when you own a business and use apps to assist you (not just play games) you'll understand why Apple (not just iphone) is the choice. Many more apps that are actually useful. #1 cutlist plus, but then again many android fanatics like "free" apps only. Which is their main gripe with apple.

Lol I find that funny. Ipad is for home use, ipad mini for the truck and business meetings, iPhone for myself. All has the same pictures and media so if a customer stops me and wants to discuss pricing, projects, work, or just how their project is coming along I've got all the pictures and video to show them without having to tell them to wait while I go find it.
No offense but being as I have used iphones and google based phones the google is the better choice I had to learn each system to know how to get it to best work for me and my business and the google based phones actually have much better options and the multiscreen is ******* when showing customers your work apple is a good company but their hardware is always years behind and customers are starting to realize that and their shares are showing that.

 
Take a look at Cutlist plus. That one app isn't available via google.

It also takes how many companies making phones for the android system to keep pace (and slightly beat) the iPhone. Take a look at Samsung's return rates, or HTC. Like I said I've got people still using both, hell I've owned both. The random shutdown feature when the phone's processor becomes overloaded (because of how much "fat" is loaded into the droid's OS) is something I couldn't stand any longer. Losing calls, texts (yes went into my messages and it was a blank screen like I've not sent or received a text since I got the phone [over a year before it happened]) and customers because of it. Since the switch not one auto-restart or lost text due to malfunction. Not to mention the plethora of new apps found that are helpful when at the shop.

 
Yep ive been using this note 2 for quite sometime the htc phones in general are pos never had a good one my note 2 has randomly restarted never once lost a text or call logs though actually have about 1600 convos on here now and the convos are quite lengthy but I can say it serves me much bett3r than iphone eber did but everyone has their own opinion.

 
I've only ever had an iPhone, although I do want to try a galaxy of some sort. My only hitch with switching is iMessage. My girlfriend, mom, dad, sister, brother, and all of my grandparents all have iPhones and use iMessage, which is extremely convenient when I'm hunting. My cabin doesn't have cell reception with any carrier but we do have wifi so I can text them all, via iMessage. I love my iPhone, it does everything I need it to without any issues, ever.

 
I've only ever had an iPhone, although I do want to try a galaxy of some sort. My only hitch with switching is iMessage. My girlfriend, mom, dad, sister, brother, and all of my grandparents all have iPhones and use iMessage, which is extremely convenient when I'm hunting. My cabin doesn't have cell reception with any carrier but we do have wifi so I can text them all, via iMessage. I love my iPhone, it does everything I need it to without any issues, ever.
Tell them to get Whatsapp. It's the same thing except it's available for all platforms (Android, IOS, Blackberry)

 
Is it worth rooting the phone? I want to root it but I read I can brick the phone if I do it wrong. I had my iphone jailbroken and that was extremely easy and couldnt harm the phone if I did it wrong.
I've done both rooting and jailbreaking and rooting is far easy/safer. It depends on the method you used to jailbreak but the one I used had plenty of room for error and bricking. Rooting is fairly easy and can be undone in a snap if needed. As far as whether or not it's worth it, I'm not sure it is. You gain an extra level of control over the phone but one of the main reasons people do jailbreaking is so they can install pirated apps, which you can do on a NONROOTED android right out of the box. So if you're looking to throttle your CPU or access some root directories (can be useful if you use snapchat...hehe) then go for it.

 
[quote name='bubbagumper6']I've done both rooting and jailbreaking and rooting is far easy/safer. It depends on the method you used to jailbreak but the one I used had plenty of room for error and bricking. Rooting is fairly easy and can be undone in a snap if needed. As far as whether or not it's worth it, I'm not sure it is. You gain an extra level of control over the phone but one of the main reasons people do jailbreaking is so they can install pirated apps, which you can do on a NONROOTED android right out of the box. So if you're looking to throttle your CPU or access some root directories (can be useful if you use snapchat...hehe) then go for it.[/QUOTE]

Actually, you can do pirated apps right out of the box. It's called Aptoide and I've set it up for a few people who MUST have their apps for free. It's just not a personal preference of mine to do so since you don't know how else those apps have been tampered with and, assuming you're rooted, you're granting those apps free reign on your OS and hardware.

To answer your question above, @myjaja ; AOSP does indeed stand for Android Open Source Project. It's essentially the barebones Android software that Google compiles. This is then sent off to each manufacturer to make whatever changes they want. Samsung layers Touchwiz, HTC layers Sense, and so on and so forth. But AOKP is the Android Open Kang Project which takes that AOSP build and makes a bunch of tweaks to it from there. For the AT&T GS4, you have task650's AOKP build which makes a completely dark UI and tons of additional customizations like app shortcuts in your notifications bar as well as power widgets and ribbons. Lots to talk about, but even more on which to read. Out of all the non-Touchwiz ROMs I've put my hands on, AOKP wins out with CyanogenMod being a close second just due to the massive dev support and large number of users who are able to submit bug reports.

Long story short, I think it's very wise to root your phone and have the ability to use software like Titanium Backup that will let you bounce from ROM to ROM and keep all of your app settings, SMS logs, call logs, and data usage. Once you start playing with different ROMs, it's hard not to try them all out and using TiBu just makes the process a LOT easier. Additionally, it was mentioned that you have free tethering, within reason, as your carrier tracks data usage and flags the hot accounts to potentially throttle. But it's really as effortless as turning it on and connecting your non-mobile device to its WiFi.

The single biggest improvement I've gotten out of the GS4 in terms of rooting is the ability to have significantly better battery life and overall speed-up of the UI. I use about 1/8 of the total Touchwiz features like SmartScroll, SmartStay, and such. Makes it very easy to use the ROMs that don't have these features.
 
Right now I'm running an AOSP build with barebone animations, using only 2 cores clocked at 800mhz each and my phone is still extremely snappy, doesn't lag with any games or apps I throw at it, etc.

I'm undervolting quite a bit (really depends on each individual phone if you can) which saves me significant battery life. I'm also using tasker to turn off wifi when I'm out of reach, and turn it on when my background gps is in a location where wifi is available. I get 3-4 days on a charge, using it quite often.

It took me a long time to get that battery life with the stock battery though, don't expect it to come easily.

 
Right now I'm running an AOSP build with barebone animations, using only 2 cores clocked at 800mhz each and my phone is still extremely snappy, doesn't lag with any games or apps I throw at it, etc.
I'm undervolting quite a bit (really depends on each individual phone if you can) which saves me significant battery life. I'm also using tasker to turn off wifi when I'm out of reach, and turn it on when my background gps is in a location where wifi is available. I get 3-4 days on a charge, using it quite often.

It took me a long time to get that battery life with the stock battery though, don't expect it to come easily.
You do realize that the gains you're receiving through undervolting are minimal at best and not worth the potential stability issues, right? I know that some kernels come with instructions to undervolt by as much as 50mV per parameter, but you run the risk of either having your phone launch itself into what's known as a "sleep of death" or completely hang on certain applications. The single greatest gain you can make on battery life comes with resource and core management (i.e. how often each core is activated for duty). If you have an option to sync both cores, that's normally preferred since the on/off state for each core is what, in my experience, causes the most significant battery draw.

 
You do realize that the gains you're receiving through undervolting are minimal at best and not worth the potential stability issues, right? I know that some kernels come with instructions to undervolt by as much as 50mV per parameter, but you run the risk of either having your phone launch itself into what's known as a "sleep of death" or completely hang on certain applications. The single greatest gain you can make on battery life comes with resource and core management (i.e. how often each core is activated for duty). If you have an option to sync both cores, that's normally preferred since the on/off state for each core is what, in my experience, causes the most significant battery draw.
The cpu draw is significantly less than what I have it undervolted to. Also, it's pretty easy to hard reset the phone by jumping two pins on the inside of the phone. The Gs4 is typically pretty good for undervolting. I easily see an extra day just from my undervolting. I know the battery draw from it isn't nearly as much as the display or running applications, but anything to squeeze out more battery life is fine in my book. Also, I carry a warranty that actually covers rooting. Undervolting isn't the best option for battery increase and the gains may be marginal... but in my case, I saw a pretty significant increase. With my GS4, I'm easily getting 3 days with pretty heavy use, 4 with lighter use. I still own an original droid incredible that's been undervolted significantly for several years now, and still runs fine.

Tasker is my favorite app by far. I kill all running tasks when the phone is on screen off for a half hour or so. It also saves c-states so I can go back into what I was doing later on. I use it with my in dash tablet to turn on with the car, connect to wifi if my phone is within reach, and output audio through the digital connection, while opening my car dock.

Again with tasker, I can turn all 4 cores on or sync 2 cores together depending on the application in use. Say I'm running a really demanding program, I can set tasker to turn on all cores, and turn them off when the application closes.

Next is to see how long I can get with a double mah battery in the phone. Just not sure I'm ready to add bulk to the gs4 :/

 
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