Gbob2003
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Great Odens Raven
Raptor 6.2 for trails son, Eco for daily
Gbob2003
dragon.breath
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The company I work for runs fleets of full size vans Which use the same engines, *****, etc. as the trucks you are looking at. We run these thing 400 to 600 miles a day,seven days a week. I have seen the paperwork on 2010 model vans with 280,000 miles on them.and we have used vans from all of the big 3 American truck makers. From a durability standpoint , the dodges were by far the worst. The fords were in the middle, and the gm's were the best.
The biggest downfall of the fords is the transmissions. With us, they seem to last 150k to 175k. I do not ever remember seeing one of the gm transmissions go bad.
The biggest downfall of the fords is the transmissions. With us, they seem to last 150k to 175k. I do not ever remember seeing one of the gm transmissions go bad.
Bettr n' Revrse
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Raptors are so pointless for the price... Unless you have the money to waste to pay double for some suspension upgrades lol...
I am bias so take it for what it is worth. I do live in rural area where pick ups make up 80%+ of the vehicles on the road excluding semi's; its mostly oil/gas industry out here. I was Nissan mechanic when the Titans came out. My votech dormmate/friend still is.
Dodge: disliked for childhood bias. I have had them for company trucks personally. I don't have much experience with them since the hemi out, but they used to have transmission issues. The interiors are pretty poorly made.
Chevy: the new ones make a nice alternitive to a car. decent interior, and powertrain but not upto snuff when used as a real work truck. the front bumpers (marshmellows on the corners) have low clearance issues and get nocked off at $300 a whack. My brother's co-worker has replace several on his company truck. they drive down lots of dirt county roads and pasture lease road. they average 40k miles a year.
Ford: this is what my brother's work truck is 2010 F250 6.2L gasoline 4X4. He has had little issue besides wierd shift points and the transmission not upshifting (it was electrical and was an inconstant issue that was fixes with a software patch). His work truck now has 80-90K on it. He wants to buy when his company retires in around the 150K mark. He took delivery on his 2013 Raptor just after Halloween. That is an awesome pickup!
Nissan: a couple of the early ones had transmission issues. they can run lean and cook the catalytic convertor which can come apart finding its way into the engine. My mechanic friend has had 2 and his dad has one. The first thing he does is "broom handles" the cats. In Oklahoma, we don't have vehicle inspections. They run good but are not so great on gas. If your dive the hard, the learn your driving style and while making more power get dismal miliage. Ryan's only one average 11.5mpg. On road trips it got close to 13 one time. With the average driver you can expect 16-17 on the highway. They are pretty tough and had a decent quality interior.
toyota: my mom has a 08 5.7L 4 door after a year of owner ship has still loves it. It gets 16-17mpg average with her 11mile drive to work on open roads. Really nice interior and feels solid. my dad bought a "loss leader" 2012 tundra with the smaller 4.7? v-8 it runs good but not like the 5.7L. He still tows 10Klbs stock trailors without any problems at 65-70. His gets in the 18mpg range unloaded. 12ish towing. His truck is stripped with rubberfloors, vinyal seats, and not much else. It would have crank windows if they are offers. He got his for $22K OTD. It is the true 4door without 4x4. They seem like a nice blend of Chevy luxury, class leading power(5.7), and ruggedness but they are the most expensive.
That is just my 2 cents.
Dodge: disliked for childhood bias. I have had them for company trucks personally. I don't have much experience with them since the hemi out, but they used to have transmission issues. The interiors are pretty poorly made.
Chevy: the new ones make a nice alternitive to a car. decent interior, and powertrain but not upto snuff when used as a real work truck. the front bumpers (marshmellows on the corners) have low clearance issues and get nocked off at $300 a whack. My brother's co-worker has replace several on his company truck. they drive down lots of dirt county roads and pasture lease road. they average 40k miles a year.
Ford: this is what my brother's work truck is 2010 F250 6.2L gasoline 4X4. He has had little issue besides wierd shift points and the transmission not upshifting (it was electrical and was an inconstant issue that was fixes with a software patch). His work truck now has 80-90K on it. He wants to buy when his company retires in around the 150K mark. He took delivery on his 2013 Raptor just after Halloween. That is an awesome pickup!
Nissan: a couple of the early ones had transmission issues. they can run lean and cook the catalytic convertor which can come apart finding its way into the engine. My mechanic friend has had 2 and his dad has one. The first thing he does is "broom handles" the cats. In Oklahoma, we don't have vehicle inspections. They run good but are not so great on gas. If your dive the hard, the learn your driving style and while making more power get dismal miliage. Ryan's only one average 11.5mpg. On road trips it got close to 13 one time. With the average driver you can expect 16-17 on the highway. They are pretty tough and had a decent quality interior.
toyota: my mom has a 08 5.7L 4 door after a year of owner ship has still loves it. It gets 16-17mpg average with her 11mile drive to work on open roads. Really nice interior and feels solid. my dad bought a "loss leader" 2012 tundra with the smaller 4.7? v-8 it runs good but not like the 5.7L. He still tows 10Klbs stock trailors without any problems at 65-70. His gets in the 18mpg range unloaded. 12ish towing. His truck is stripped with rubberfloors, vinyal seats, and not much else. It would have crank windows if they are offers. He got his for $22K OTD. It is the true 4door without 4x4. They seem like a nice blend of Chevy luxury, class leading power(5.7), and ruggedness but they are the most expensive.
That is just my 2 cents.
Bettr n' Revrse
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Ya they look good just useless... Either way just don't get the upgraded audio package (infinity, Bose, ext)
The base raptor starts at $43K.The raptor has different sheet metal all the way around. The cab is sealed up to 36ins for water/mud. The biggest reason people buy them is they drive and ride like if not better than a normal pick up. I have personally been down wash board dirt roads at 95 in one and nothing rattled. You could feel vibrations in the seat but it was confortable.
They don't cost if any much more than fully load regular F150. My brother had his delivered $51K with everything but the sun roof because he didn't want it. They don't depriciate like most trucks.
Put your aftermarket suspension and a new truck and see how much money you saved when after you void your warrenty?
Bettr n' Revrse
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Just saying I would rather build a truck that can go where I need it not some flashy thing from the factory... Just like I wouldn't buy a mustang with a performance package from the factory I would rather just build one and be faster and differnt then every other guy that just drove off the lot... There are soapy around here and they are pretty much useless for our type of environment (not that any of them ever see anything but mall parking lots) I would much rather have a dodge power wagon for around here...
galacticmonkey
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Everyone talks about reliability like it is a definite. Some trucks may be known for being a POS and last forever, while some trucks that are known for reliability may give you problems.
For instance, I bought a 2000 Excursion with the 7.3l Powerstroke. Only had around 82k miles on it when I bought it in August, and now Im around 89k. They are knowing for being bulletproof, but it has been nothing but problems since Ive had it the last few months. Ill just say the amount of stuff that has been fixed and still needs to be fixed is more expensive than a payment on a new car. So far, it has averaged around $1k/mo or more in repairs. Only had it around 4 months and so far the turbo needed to be rebuilt, the vacuum pump broke, the water in fuel light came on meaning that I needed to redo the entire fuel filter system to fix it, the transmission has had problems (and I think the transmission or driveshaft needs a whole lot more work), the window motors have broken (havent fixed it yet), intake needed to be replaced, glow plug relay went bad, one of my shocks is leaking, and a bunch of other stuff I cant even remember.
For instance, I bought a 2000 Excursion with the 7.3l Powerstroke. Only had around 82k miles on it when I bought it in August, and now Im around 89k. They are knowing for being bulletproof, but it has been nothing but problems since Ive had it the last few months. Ill just say the amount of stuff that has been fixed and still needs to be fixed is more expensive than a payment on a new car. So far, it has averaged around $1k/mo or more in repairs. Only had it around 4 months and so far the turbo needed to be rebuilt, the vacuum pump broke, the water in fuel light came on meaning that I needed to redo the entire fuel filter system to fix it, the transmission has had problems (and I think the transmission or driveshaft needs a whole lot more work), the window motors have broken (havent fixed it yet), intake needed to be replaced, glow plug relay went bad, one of my shocks is leaking, and a bunch of other stuff I cant even remember.
yes, because every issue was due to him not upgrading parts like he should have. the chip he got REQUIRED a new higher pressure pump or a second pump and at minimum a shift kit. he did neither which caused both problems. and the bearings were his fault for not getting the propper offset wheels leading to more stress on the outer wheel bearings, shich wore out and caused the inner ones to wear as well.
now that he has had a little ****** work done as well as a 2 stage fuel pump settup, everything is running great. and he just passed 240K miles.
Matt
kat_black181
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TITAN!!!!!! Please. White on white. Would be AMAZING!!!! 
galacticmonkey
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Lame.TITAN!!!!!! Please. White on white. Would be AMAZING!!!!
kat_black181
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Oh really now?
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