which ones better?

[daicacharco 10+ year member]

im going to replace the stock speakers. im wondering which one will get louder.

im not going to use any amp to push these, using factory head unit. just replacing the stock speakers.

Alpine SPS-17C2

6-1/2" 2-Way 250W Car Speakers

http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=16415

or

Pioneer Premier TS-A641P

6-1/2" 4-Way 260W Car Speakers

http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=14556

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[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

If you're really concerned about getting loud, don't use head unit power.

 

[daicacharco 10+ year member]

If you're really concerned about getting loud, don't use head unit power.

what speakers would you recommend if im on a budget for some speakers that will get loud? im willing to purchase an amp to push it now that you mention'd it