whats up with 2 ohm speakers??

[shaneb 10+ year member]

well I can see why they're better already, they have bigger motor structure and a deeper excursion. mounting depth is way too deep for the doors in my taurus.

Yeah I had to make 1 1/2'' baffles for my Prelude //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

It was worth it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Cause any high end mid I put in there is going to need about 3 inches.

 

[Steveopevo 10+ year member]

Yeah I had to make 1 1/2'' baffles for my Prelude //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gifIt was worth it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Cause any high end mid I put in there is going to need about 3 inches.

I would buy them in a heartbeat but the depth from the cut out is only 2-3/4 to the window when it's rolled down. I guess I could put spacer rings in but the tweeters would hit the factory grill and I want to keep my factory grills so thiefs don't look in my car and see opportunity.

 

[Horsemanwill 10+ year member]

Read the forth reply down, lol.
IMO that's bullshit that you can 'hear' the difference between a 2 and a 4 ohm load. But I'm not one of those crazy SQ heads, so I don't know. I'd understand if I were spending thousands and thousands of dollars on each piece of equipment in my system, then hell yeah I'd want it to sound good. But honestly, considering your here asking this question in the first place has me thinking your running a normal setup, not a 6,000 dollar component set and a 2,000 dollar amplifier. But that may be wrong, just a generalization from what I've seen on CA.com. DIYMA and ICIXsound have some more SQ related infos, but honestly, I think it's total BS to hear the difference in 2 and 4 ohms with any decent amp setup.

imo your right. the only difference is the power that the 2 ohm speaker is getting compared to the 4 ohm one. and it also depends on the amp also some amps will run hotter at 2 ohms and some won't even break a sweat.

yeah, I already did...lol, but there are similar threads that refer to the issue. 2 ohm operation is still gonna run an amp hotter though.

again like i said a lil bit earlier it all depends on the amp.

 

[Horsemanwill 10+ year member]

Yeah I had to make 1 1/2'' baffles for my Prelude //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gifIt was worth it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Cause any high end mid I put in there is going to need about 3 inches.

not really there are a few "high end" mids out there that won't take up that much space.

 

[gunz4me 10+ year member]

2 ohm speakers are only safe to run off of a typical 4 ohm h/u if you keep the factory speaker wire 18-22 guage. I asked jbl about it and they said that the primary reason it was safe was using the crappy factory speaker wire which in turn balances the impedance back upto 4 ohms. I said well what if I use 16 guage or lower and they said it could became a problem at that point. But of course I do intend on running an amp so who cares.

I have been cheating a lot lately. I usually run 16 gauge or bigger wire to the factory wire, and let it run factory from there. I still curse Honda for those molex plugs. The passenger door has extra space to run a wire, but all the slots on my driver's side are taken up:verymad: I am NOT pulling the fenders or doors just to run additional speaker wires!

 

[Horsemanwill 10+ year member]

I have been cheating a lot lately. I usually run 16 gauge or bigger wire to the factory wire, and let it run factory from there. I still curse Honda for those molex plugs. The passenger door has extra space to run a wire, but all the slots on my driver's side are taken up:verymad: I am NOT pulling the fenders or doors just to run additional speaker wires!

honda and almost all the newer cars now //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif have them **** plastic freaking plugs.

 

[x2o 10+ year member]

honda and almost all the newer cars now //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif have them **** plastic freaking plugs.

Even mine has it, and I have a 2003 mazda //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif.

The 2006 civic I worked on the other day had them as well. **** plugs..

 

[shaneb 10+ year member]

When you lower the impedance load on a amp, the damping factor halves, the damping factor is the ability for that amp to control the driver, to make it stop and start on a dime.

Now will you notice the difference in a CX2 or CX4 driver? no, not likely you will ever hear the difference. But that is what I meant by damping factory possibly affecting SQ.

 

[x2o 10+ year member]

When you lower the impedance load on a amp, the damping factor halves, the damping factor is the ability for that amp to control the driver, to make it stop and start on a dime.Now will you notice the difference in a CX2 or CX4 driver? no, not likely you will ever hear the difference. But that is what I meant by damping factory possibly affecting SQ.

Yeah I understood you. I mean in scientific terms it does diminish SQ I suppose, but is it audible? 99% likely that it is not..

Honestly, as long as the ear can't tell, it doesn't matter to me //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif. I understand how the damping factor could effect SQ by dropping the ohm load, but is it audible? I think not.

 

[shaneb 10+ year member]

not really there are a few "high end" mids out there that won't take up that much space.

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[shaneb 10+ year member]

Yeah I understood you. I mean in scientific terms it does diminish SQ I suppose, but is it audible? 99% likely that it is not..
Honestly, as long as the ear can't tell, it doesn't matter to me //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif. I understand how the damping factor could effect SQ by dropping the ohm load, but is it audible? I think not.

Agreed.

 

[gunz4me 10+ year member]

The other question I would ask is how many manufacturers are actually telling the truth about their damping factor? IIRC the old school Rockford Fosgates and Orions used to rate their damping factor at the circuit board NOT the molex plug. Back then, everyone was impressed with the huge damping factor numbers.

On the other hand, I remember people running their HCCA 225s @ 1/4 (ETA ohm) and the subs sounded like shite. This was largely blamed on the fact that the damping factor at such a low load caused the subwoofer to lose control. Don't get me wrong, it was rather impressive what they could do with one amp regarding SPL for a particular power class, but I heard basic setups with more power that sounded tons better!

Lastly, while I am at it, didn't the Orion NT series have an insane damping factor. I am talking greater than 1,000....