What is more important for sq setup, fq response, or power handeling?

[SPLAudioHz 10+ year member]

I am looking at two flat subs for a light weight install in a 95 mustang.

Foundation: enclosure identical (IN LOOK AND MOUNT, NOT INTERNAL DESIGN) to the mach 460 rear deck enclosure.

Subs: Two 12s. Must be flat with low cu ft requirement.

Looking at:

Alpine SWR-T12:

fq response-26-200Hz

Power handling-600w rms

enclosure size-.68 gross internal cu ft each

Dynaudio MW190

fq response-25-800Hz

Power handling-200w rms

enclosure size-2 gross internal cu ft each (crazy I know)

The dyn is somewhat unrealistic in cu ft requirement, but I was wondering what is more important for sq. Although the subs will not be turned up all that much, as my front stage will handle most of the action, I am still curious is to what some of you audiophiles think.

Jesse

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[sobe3yourself. 10+ year member]

morel ultimo if you have the cash //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[Louisiana_CRX 5,000+ posts]

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[Slayerx 10+ year member]

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[SPLAudioHz 10+ year member]

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Move me plz

 

[SPLAudioHz 10+ year member]

morel ultimo if you have the cash //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Already looked, not much more than Alpines, but too deep and require too much cu ft. According to the spec sheet I dl from Morelhifi.com

 

[speakerdude123 10+ year member]

Why two 12's if you dont want them turned up much and aren't expecting to hear much of em?

Sounds like you just want to add a little thump in the trunk? A 10 is much smaller and will give you the extra thump that it sounds like you want. Two 12's is gonna take alot of room and is gonna be alot of bass as well.

If your looking for sq I don't think squeezing two 12's in a small *** box will be very practical for your money. More than likely they will sound like P00.

IMO I would go with a good 10" woofer in s sealed box, it will be very small and give you good sq. Oh and to answer your question, IT IS ALL ABOUT THE BOX! Your fq and power handling wont mean more than a penny on the ground if your box is wack.

That is just my 2 cents...

 

[SPLAudioHz 10+ year member]

Great info.

 

[SPLAudioHz 10+ year member]

Why two 12's if you dont want them turned up much and aren't expecting to hear much of em?

I wanted two 12s for DD. Too much?

123;7377800]Sounds like you just want to add a little thump in the trunk? A 10 is much smaller and will give you the extra thump that it sounds like you want. Two 12's is gonna take alot of room and is gonna be alot of bass as well.

I guess I was thinking an enclosure mounted in a trunk, not firing into the cabin, and firing downward would need something larger than a 10 to fill the cabin. I may be very wrong.

If your looking for sq I don't think squeezing two 12's in a small *** box will be very practical for your money. More than likely they will sound like P00.

Money isn't a big concern. According to Alpine, a pair of 12s require 1.36 (MAX) sealed cu ft. I have 2.73 cu ft to work with. I was thinking that meeting the alpine specs would be okay. Again I may be wrong, I really don't want it to sound like "poo"

 

[Sweet'n Low 10+ year member]

Grab you some legitimate 8's or one 10. If you get the right ones, you won't be upset. it'll take up less or as much room as this:

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/attachments/4-6l-talk/33927d1191236948-2001-mustang-audio-system-should-i-use-2-10-1-12-subs-copy-dsc00025.jpg

600-800 watt's and you'll be fine. in a sealed box perhaps.

 

[ramos 5,000+ posts]

2.73 cuft is plenty for a single or even pair of ultimo's.

In talking with a morel rep at meca finals a couple years ago, and then playing around with one, an ultimo in a 1cuft lightly stuffed sealed enclosure is pretty much the cat's arse. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[whitedragon551 5,000+ posts]

You can check out the SI BM MKIII

Stereo Integrity | SI BM mkIII

 

[helotaxi 5,000+ posts]

You'll see very few SQ setups with small subs. Why? Because a bigger driver can give the same output with much less excursion. Less excursion means less distortion. I might be able to get adequate output from a pair of 8s or a pair of 12 but the 8s are going to be getting driven hard and the 12s are going to be doing it effortlessly. 15s and 12s used to be the standard for SQ systems. The only reason to go with smaller drivers is when you are dimensionally limited.

 

[SPLAudioHz 10+ year member]

You can check out the SI BM MKIII
Stereo Integrity | SI BM mkIII

Your the second person to mention this sub to me. You have a direct link? Someone said "Nick" had a couple for sale????

 

[speakerdude123 10+ year member]

A single 10" sub can shake the **** out of your car, so don't think that an 8" or 10" sub wont give you any bass, they will. But like I said it is all about the box. You need to determine what you want, you can go ported or sealed. A ported box can be up to three times as big as a sealed box.

Honestly it sounds like you don't want to take up a lot of room in the trunk and I would really think about a 10" sub in a sealed box, you can get away with about .5 cubic feet with a 10 in a sealed box. Wire it at 4 ohms and it will sound great.

A buddy of mine had a 10" sub in a sealed box like I described and it was more than enough bass.

But it is up to you, if you want two 12's you need to be willing to sacrifice your trunk because two 12's will take up just about your whole trunk and it will be a alot of bass, not just a little thump in your trunk it will be booming.