It's like 7 above 'this' post (the one I'm responding to).. toward the bottom of the response..
All I see here is you SUPPORTING my argument.. Those people in China work a LOT harder than you do.. You get the HU, they get 30 cents and go back to some hole in the wall and eat some scraps.. why? so you can have a HU to listen to while you drive to some resteraunt and eat 1/2 your meal and have the rest tossed into a landfill..
As for your 'Chevrolet' and AC Delco stereo.. where do you think most of the circuitry in that stereo came from? Factories on American soil? not likely.. and most of the electronics in your "American made" care are from other countries.. And, it's getting to the point where more and more of the parts are being shipped in to American factories and the cars are just assembled here..
The gist of my argument (that you seem to think you debunked) -> Americans get nice things at the expense of people in other countries (I was talking more about resources used to create things, but LuRp was kind enough to add suffering and misery to the mix).
The gist of LuRp's argument -> shut up, I give proof and you don't care.. you are dumb.. go away.. I'm not listening to you, I'm not listening to you ... nanannanananan..
Check Mate? wft? you support my argument and think you win? OOOOHHH.. I get it... you said check mate cause I won cause you forfited the game? I thought that was conceding *shrug*.. But, thanks for admitting I'm right.. makes this all worth the effort
Savant,
Nice one. You really out did yourself here. Like i said, I have absolutly NO problem owning any of that stuff. I have a problem with you being a hypocrite. You critisize me and all Americans who own or buy products that, I quote from you, "and that there are a lot of people 'in the world' that have to go without so you can have.. ". Yeah you really got me there.
It was a nice try though. Ill give you that much. It's hard to respond to a post that can not be responded to.
If you were truly sincere about you're argument, I am sure they could use an extra hand there in China.
Can't wait to hear what you are going to come up with next.
LuRp
Nice one. You really out did yourself here. Like i said, I have absolutly NO problem owning any of that stuff. I have a problem with you being a hypocrite. You critisize me and all Americans who own or buy products that, I quote from you, "and that there are a lot of people 'in the world' that have to go without so you can have.. ". Yeah you really got me there.
I will try and make this as simple as possible for you. It's amusing that when I point out you're own products that ultimatly came from "suffering and misery ", that im supporting "you're" argument.
It was a nice try though. Ill give you that much. It's hard to respond to a post that can not be responded to.
If you were truly sincere about you're argument, I am sure they could use an extra hand there in China.
Can't wait to hear what you are going to come up with next.
LuRp
What I'm gonna come up with next is.. the ENTIRE basis for the argument between you and I is.. I KNOW that all this crap happens.. I think it sucks *** that these people have to deal with this kind of shit, but since it's largely their government that fuks them over, there is little I can do about it (I could do without a lot of what I have, but unless a LOT more than just I do that, it's futile.. hipocritical? a bit... but at least I understand why people in the world would not like me).. You, on the other hand, have the attitude that for some reason, they aren't worthy of NOT being treated like that.. and they DESERVE it because you DESERVE what you have.. You seem you couldn't care less about the rest of the world population.. Where as "I" at least acknowledge that they are being made to suffer (from something beyond me for the most part).. and I don't like it.. You seem to think it's of no consequence..
"I work hard for what I have and if they don't like it they can fuk off".. nice.. How about a little compassion? That's all I'm saying.. Americans are fukin pricks for the most part.. See someone sitting on a corner all dirty and stinky and they ask for a buck? You give them one? I seriously doubt it.. you are the type to 'suggest' they get a job, it will get them farther than begging.. Me? I've been known to give every penny in my pocket.. which, after a pay day, can be pretty substantial (remeber, I lived in the streats before.. $50 goes a LONG way when you haven't eaten in days)..
Anyway.. This all started because I said the average American was a self-indulgent piece of shit.. You then proved my point.. now you are trying to say I'm no better than you, yet I consistently point out that I despise how others are treated and you consistently say fuk off.. *shrug*.. what ever.. this can't be worked out.. You keep avoiding the base issue.. that is that Americans are friggin pricks from a global perspective, to wich you say "we deserve to be, we are better than the rest of them".. If you can't see that that's what you stated, then read the last line of my sig.. that's you.. and not the horse..
The MAIN differences.. I KNOW and understand why our global acceptance sucks.. YOU.. contribute to why we are in such ill repute..
*wave*
Savant,
I never uttered a single thing about fuk the world.. you put words in my mouth.
Any how,
Well i feel te same way about them. This is what I have to say to all the people that think im a "friggin prick" , you get a great big greasy, oil soaked, arogant,
F U C K - Y O U!
Im done here.. its just the same stuff over and over.
LuRp
I never uttered a single thing about fuk the world.. you put words in my mouth.
Any how,
Well i feel te same way about them. This is what I have to say to all the people that think im a "friggin prick" , you get a great big greasy, oil soaked, arogant,
F U C K - Y O U!
Im done here.. its just the same stuff over and over.
LuRp
Hmmmmm kaaaay...
Page 3, 1/2 way down
Page 3 most of the way down
to which you responded later that that wasn't directed towards me, but towards the people who felt we were wasteful and should die.. (page 6, 1/2 way down)
Seems to me you are saying fuk you to all those people who don't like us being such global shit-heads.. which is a significant portion of the world's population..
Anyway.. if you want to find these things on the pages I have listed, I have 30 posts/page set in my options (the default is 25 I think?)..
Some day LuRp, you will learn how to engage in an intellectual debate.. You have a lot to learn about logic and valid arguments before you can manage to actually prove your points. It would also help if you could manage to remember what you have said earlier so you don't put your foot in your mouth like with this post..
You are right, it's the same thing over and over now because you couldn't disprove anything I've said but refuse to admit you are wrong.. common problem in America.. that's the arrogant and narcissistic part..
I think we can agree that this banter is done.. Now, if someone wants to continue the original discussion, that would be great.. We could talk about something like the 10s (perhaps hundreds) of millions of people that have started protests and marches world wide.. Pretty impressive global statement about the world's view of us and their lack of trust in our government..
You are thick.. I stand by those statments i said earlier.. and im not saying fuk the world you dolt.. im saying fuk the people that have a problem with me. If thats a large majority for the world, then im sorry for them.
You obviously arent happy about Americans or America.. so get the hell out.
LuRp
You obviously arent happy about Americans or America.. so get the hell out.
LuRp
Actually, I love America.. Greatest country in the world.. I don't like the over-abundance of tiny-minded little people who think the world owes them something.. Americans? don't care for most of them.. America, the country? Love it..
Funny how I'm thick when you are the one that says "I never said fuk the world, just those that don't like me.. If thats a large majority for the world then im sorry for them".. So.. Again.. the 'world pop' doesn't like you so you say tough, fuk off.. but then say you aren't saying that?
Yup.. I'm thick //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif
CarAudioAddict
10+ year member
What did I do now?
Savant:
Why bother?
He'll just come back and say something stupid. People like him the the World can do without. Take peace in the fact that you know what your talking about. People like lurp cannot be dealt with reasonably. It's people like him that plunge this world into war, and it's people like him that should fight the wars.
I would suggest not trying to educate those who are too stupid to learn, in the end you'll be frustrated, and he'll still be no smarter.
Lurp: You do NOT deserve anything. And to think that you deserve more because you work behind a desk making more money than most people in other countries will ever have, is a selfish, arrogant thing to say. If you were to compare the amount of work you do in a year to the amount of work that some poor kid put into making your electronics, shoes, shirts and just about everything else you own, You would find that you don't deserve ANYTHING AT ALL.
Basically: Fuk you, and fuk your world.
That is all.................
I hope
Why bother?
He'll just come back and say something stupid. People like him the the World can do without. Take peace in the fact that you know what your talking about. People like lurp cannot be dealt with reasonably. It's people like him that plunge this world into war, and it's people like him that should fight the wars.
I would suggest not trying to educate those who are too stupid to learn, in the end you'll be frustrated, and he'll still be no smarter.
Lurp: You do NOT deserve anything. And to think that you deserve more because you work behind a desk making more money than most people in other countries will ever have, is a selfish, arrogant thing to say. If you were to compare the amount of work you do in a year to the amount of work that some poor kid put into making your electronics, shoes, shirts and just about everything else you own, You would find that you don't deserve ANYTHING AT ALL.
Basically: Fuk you, and fuk your world.
That is all.................
I hope
heh,
feel free to go F U C K yourself.
like i said, im done with you guys. Idiot Savant and his groupies: I invite you to put your "money" (get it? probably not) where your mouth is (that is if you can get your head far enough out of savants *** to do it).
LuRp
feel free to go F U C K yourself.
like i said, im done with you guys. Idiot Savant and his groupies: I invite you to put your "money" (get it? probably not) where your mouth is (that is if you can get your head far enough out of savants *** to do it).
LuRp
BonusBobo
10+ year member
Lightweight Sesh
oh man... so wish there were some way for me to punch him to end this soiree.
yeah come and get me... ill end you.
If you are 'done with us'.. why don't you just shut up and leave? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/banghead.gif.8606515f668c74f6de0281deb475b6fd.gif
Peace is not the abscence of war...peace is the abcsence of fear along with the abscence of war.
The USA defeated the Mexican army and let the Mexican's keep Mexico.
The USA defeated the Confederacy and allowed them to regain their statehood and citizenship.
The USA defeated the Kaiser and retuned Europe to the Europeans.
The USA defeated the Nazis and Italian fascists and returned Europe to the Europeans (again), Egypt to the Egytptians, Ethiopia to the Ethiopians, and the Middle East to the Middle Easterners.
The USA defeated the Land of the Rising Sun and returned Japan to the Japanese, China to the Chinese, Viet Nam to the Vietnamese, Cambodia to the Cambodians, Laos to the Laotians, Korea to the Koreans, and Thailand to the Thais.
The USA defeated the Iraqi army in Kuwait, captured the Kuwaiti and Iraqi oil fields, and then returned Kuwait to the Kuwaitis and Iraq to the Iraqis.
The USA defeated the Taliban and returned Afghanistan to the Afghanis.
The USA was the defender of Europe against Soviet expansionism for 2 generations.
The USA is the only country to airdrop food to a nation while it fought it's military.
The USA is the only country to conquer another and then rebuild their infrastructure instead of plundering what little wealth remained and then subjugate the people.
The USA is the largest importer of refugees from other lands and has the smallest emmigration rate of any nation in history.
Our nation is about to once again go to war to defend our interests AND the interests of our Allies while most nations shake with fear at the latest Fuehrer du jour.
Forget the oil fields and the wealth. If we wanted them we had them taken before and what did we do? We stuck around to repair the damage inflicted by the aggressor and went went home.
As a former soldier I can tell you that only a fool WANTS war. OTOH sometimes the alternative to war now is an even more deadly conflict later. Shame on those who refused to stop the Fascists early on to avoid bloodshed and then**** over 100,000,000 souls to death.
The USA defeated the Mexican army and let the Mexican's keep Mexico.
The USA defeated the Confederacy and allowed them to regain their statehood and citizenship.
The USA defeated the Kaiser and retuned Europe to the Europeans.
The USA defeated the Nazis and Italian fascists and returned Europe to the Europeans (again), Egypt to the Egytptians, Ethiopia to the Ethiopians, and the Middle East to the Middle Easterners.
The USA defeated the Land of the Rising Sun and returned Japan to the Japanese, China to the Chinese, Viet Nam to the Vietnamese, Cambodia to the Cambodians, Laos to the Laotians, Korea to the Koreans, and Thailand to the Thais.
The USA defeated the Iraqi army in Kuwait, captured the Kuwaiti and Iraqi oil fields, and then returned Kuwait to the Kuwaitis and Iraq to the Iraqis.
The USA defeated the Taliban and returned Afghanistan to the Afghanis.
The USA was the defender of Europe against Soviet expansionism for 2 generations.
The USA is the only country to airdrop food to a nation while it fought it's military.
The USA is the only country to conquer another and then rebuild their infrastructure instead of plundering what little wealth remained and then subjugate the people.
The USA is the largest importer of refugees from other lands and has the smallest emmigration rate of any nation in history.
Our nation is about to once again go to war to defend our interests AND the interests of our Allies while most nations shake with fear at the latest Fuehrer du jour.
Forget the oil fields and the wealth. If we wanted them we had them taken before and what did we do? We stuck around to repair the damage inflicted by the aggressor and went went home.
As a former soldier I can tell you that only a fool WANTS war. OTOH sometimes the alternative to war now is an even more deadly conflict later. Shame on those who refused to stop the Fascists early on to avoid bloodshed and then**** over 100,000,000 souls to death.
PEACE
CarAudioAddict
10+ year member
What did I do now?
First - The USA lost the Vietnam war. It's a well known fact to everyone except people who believe Govt. propaganda.
Second - The US was one of the last countries to enter WWII, and they only entered once Germany started to lose. Basically show up at the last minute, and take all the credit.
Third - How will another World war which most likely result in the deaths of millions of innocent people in the best interest of the world?
War is sometimes a quick answer to a problem, but it is never the right answer. The World had a chance to remove Saddam from power 12 years ago and they failed, now they are complaining about his policies - well should have thought of that before.
The US feels that their "way of life" is the only way of life. Until the US learns tolerance they have no right to police the world. Even then they still don't have the right.
As for the US saving the world -----BAH. Humans have been on the planet for over 5000 years the US has only been around for about 5% of that time. To think that the US has been a major player in Human history is conceited. There was war before the US was here, there will be war long after the US is gone - unfortunately it's part of human nature.
The driving force behind war has been and always will be wealth and power. The only way to abolish war would be to take away wealth and power. The only way to accomplish this is for everyone in the world to realize that everyone/every life is equal.
Everyone is equal, that is a policy I have lived my life by. I have never been in a fight, I have never been attacked by anyone, and I will not judge someone before I know what they are like. (sounds like star trek)
Second - The US was one of the last countries to enter WWII, and they only entered once Germany started to lose. Basically show up at the last minute, and take all the credit.
Third - How will another World war which most likely result in the deaths of millions of innocent people in the best interest of the world?
War is sometimes a quick answer to a problem, but it is never the right answer. The World had a chance to remove Saddam from power 12 years ago and they failed, now they are complaining about his policies - well should have thought of that before.
The US feels that their "way of life" is the only way of life. Until the US learns tolerance they have no right to police the world. Even then they still don't have the right.
As for the US saving the world -----BAH. Humans have been on the planet for over 5000 years the US has only been around for about 5% of that time. To think that the US has been a major player in Human history is conceited. There was war before the US was here, there will be war long after the US is gone - unfortunately it's part of human nature.
The driving force behind war has been and always will be wealth and power. The only way to abolish war would be to take away wealth and power. The only way to accomplish this is for everyone in the world to realize that everyone/every life is equal.
Everyone is equal, that is a policy I have lived my life by. I have never been in a fight, I have never been attacked by anyone, and I will not judge someone before I know what they are like. (sounds like star trek)
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