Welding Wire vs. Audio Power Wire

[ultimate157 5,000+ posts]

Do me a favor take that hyperflex and cut that bad end away so that its a clean cut like that of the welding wire next to it.
Once again it all depends on the brand of welding wire used. The 1/0 wire i use is automotive cable but its pure un-tinned copper. The outside jacket is much thinner then what is pictured here. Still super flexable.

I get it for hella cheap. so thats allways a +

Hyperflex is more flexible than the welding wire stuff, and is equal if not larger than 2/0 in diameter.

 

[SPL Blazer 10+ year member]

Hyperflex is more flexible than the welding wire stuff, and is equal if not larger than 2/0 in diameter.

It's equal to the 2/0 or the 0/2 ga wire? There is a difference in size for those who don't know.

 

[ultimate157 5,000+ posts]

high strand count is good because when dealing with electricity, there is something called the 'skin' effect. this is based on the fact that more electrons pass down the surface of a conductor rather than down the center of the conductor. so tons and tons of strands in a clump will have way more surface area than a giant thick copper buss bar that is 10 feet long. also strand count makes the wire more flexible. but this is just a nice benefit for installing in tight spaces.

Skin effect is only present in Alternating Current at high frequencies.

 

[ultimate157 5,000+ posts]

It's equal to the 2/0 or the 0/2 ga wire? There is a difference in size for those who don't know.

I assume you're referring to household wiring code. Example, 12/2 is 2 12 gauge solid conductors. 0/2 would be two 0 gauge wires.

And I'm referring to the AWG wire spec.

 

[seedubs1 10+ year member]

Do me a favor take that hyperflex and cut that bad end away so that its a clean cut like that of the welding wire next to it.
Once again it all depends on the brand of welding wire used. The 1/0 wire i use is automotive cable but its pure un-tinned copper. The outside jacket is much thinner then what is pictured here. Still super flexable.

I get it for hella cheap. so thats allways a +

Like I said.....That picture was not taken by me. If you'd like a clean side by side pic of anything vs. hyperflex, send me whatever you want compared to it. I have hyperflex, but not the welding cable.

The welding cable is true 1/0 awg by the standard. Hyperflex exceeds the standard, and is MUCH more flexible. However, some car audio wire (like Raptor) is below the true awg standard. Car audio wire doesn't really go by true awg standards. Some is better, some is worse.

 

[SPL Blazer 10+ year member]

I assume you're referring to household wiring code. Example, 12/2 is 2 12 gauge solid conductors. 0/2 would be two 0 gauge wires.
And I'm referring to the AWG wire spec.

The wire spec sheets I was reading while looking at welding wire say that 2/0 would be larger than 0 ga wire, where as 0/2 is the smaller 2 gauge, same with 1/0 being the larger size compared to the 0/1.

 

[DBDesignsElite]

Like I said.....That picture was not taken by me. If you'd like a clean side by side pic of anything vs. hyperflex, send me whatever you want compared to it. I have hyperflex, but not the welding cable.
The welding cable is true 1/0 awg by the standard. Hyperflex exceeds the standard, and is MUCH more flexible. However, some car audio wire (like Raptor) is below the true awg standard. Car audio wire doesn't really go by true awg standards. Some is better, some is worse.

Oh i understand man. Not trying to start anything. I just know that for the price per foot ratio and the fact that its non Tinned copper id take it anyday.

Hyperflex Is pretty wire. It looks good and is expensive. Its all on a matter of taste IMO.

Oh and i have some 1/0 and 2/0 cable that is just as flexable as Hyperflex is.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[ultimate157 5,000+ posts]

The wire spec sheets I was reading while looking at welding wire say that 2/0 would be larger than 0 ga wire, where as 0/2 is the smaller 2 gauge, same with 1/0 being the larger size compared to the 0/1.

you wouldn't refer to 4ga as 0/4ga
i've never heard of that. i'm pretty sure it's:

8ga

4ga

1/0ga

2/0 etc...

Same here, never heard of it.

 

[SPL Blazer 10+ year member]

you wouldn't refer to 4ga as 0/4ga
i've never heard of that. i'm pretty sure it's:

8ga

4ga

1/0ga

2/0 etc...

I've never seen anything about 0/4 ga either, but at the same time, when your talking about 0/1 ga wire do you always say 0/1 or do you just call it 0 gauge? I would think the same thing would apply to the 0/4 or 4 ga wire. The listing I've seen would have it as

8ga

4ga

0/2ga

0/1ga

1/0ga

2/0

3/0

4/0 etc

 

[helotaxi 5,000+ posts]

I've never seen anything about 0/4 ga either, but at the same time, when your talking about 0/1 ga wire do you always say 0/1 or do you just call it 0 gauge? I would think the same thing would apply to the 0/4 or 4 ga wire. The listing I've seen would have it as
8ga

4ga

0/2ga

0/1ga

1/0ga

2/0

3/0

4/0 etc

1/0 is 0 guage. 2/0 is 00 gauge. There is 2 ga and it is referred to as such. Same with 1 ga. I'm not sure what you've been reading but it isn't right.

 

[seedubs1 10+ year member]

Oh i understand man. Not trying to start anything. I just know that for the price per foot ratio and the fact that its non Tinned copper id take it anyday.
Hyperflex Is pretty wire. It looks good and is expensive. Its all on a matter of taste IMO.

Oh and i have some 1/0 and 2/0 cable that is just as flexable as Hyperflex is.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Just out of curriosity, how much did welding 1/0 end up costing after shipping and everything?

I ended up getting 150ft of hyperflex 1/0 for $470 shipped. That ends up being $3.13 per foot. I know you can get 50ft spools of it for $170 shipped from hookedontronics.com anytime.

Just currious to see how much cheaper 1/0 welding ends up being after shipping and everything.

 

[ultimate157 5,000+ posts]

1/0 Ultra Flex from weldingsupply.com is 2.48 per foot over 50ft. Thats only $372+shipping

It is true 1/0 in size, where as hyperflex is more like 2/0 and still more flexible due to its nicer jacket.

 

[BassmentJack 10+ year member]

^^^pic by ultimate157^^^

Welding 1/0 on the Left.....Hyperflex on the right.....Enough said.

what'd you cut that HyperFlex with a hacksaw? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

 

[ultimate157 5,000+ posts]

what'd you cut that HyperFlex with a hacksaw? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

probably, don't remember.

It wasn't pretty though.