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[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

I'm more worried about the white guys with suits and ties...LOL! When they hit us they hit us in the BILLIONS and TRILLIONS. Look at the S&L scandal during the Reagan presidency. That was a $500 billion dollar deal. How many car audio units would minorities have to steal to equal that? If the average aftermarket car stereo system was $1000 (and I'm figuring high, so bear with me), they would need to steal 500 million units. There's not that many cars on the entire continent of North America...LOL! The US has around 243 million cars in case you want to know.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passenger_vehicles_in_the_United_States

The best way to rob a bank is to own one...LOL! You get the high and mighty all connected, then let them pay less than a penny on the dollar for legislation that favors them when they buy their political favors to get the most corrupt system of all. Democracy is the best government money can buy!

The black thug looks menacing. The white guy in the suit and tie is who's gonna getcha.

Rick

Believe it or not, breaking into my truck is far worse.

The money they "stole" and I don't see it as theft...it isn't like a bunch of people made out with the bailout, ie I bet there are more auto burglarists than folks who made any real money...And the bailout was a function of raising of the Q ceiling and Fed Chairman Paul Volker's assualt on inflation more than "theft"

With that aside, breaking into my truck is personal. It is a violation of my personal space and should be treated with much harsher judgement than currently issued...(for instance, if there was bill that said I am going to raise your property tax by $500 and all people caught breaking into cars will have a mandatory 3 year imprisonment, I would support it). When you steal from the aggregate, $500 billion divided among 300 million people, is what $1600?

 

[1991Brougham 10+ year member]

You do bring up a good point, but a guy in a suit and tie has never robbed anyone of their physical life. I'll take white collar crime over death any day.

Political leaders wear suits and ties for the most part. They also get their nations into wars and plenty of people die in them. Bush's Iraq mess is bad but go back to a guy like Hitler. There's a guy who dressed nice, loved kids and dogs, was a non-smoking teetotaler, a decorated military vet and a guy who won elections without the help of Diebold...LOL! LBJ dressed snazzily as Prez and got us in an even worse mess in terms of lives lost in Vietnam (over 1 million dead Vietnamese). The crowned heads of Europe had a big set-to back in 1914 and look at what 20 million dead got us from that war, yet all those guys were nicely dressed and their actions set the table for what came with Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Franco and Tojo.

Corporate suits cause death too. Ever hear of Bhopal, where Dow Chemical had a little accident? Or how about the bureaucratic suits who gave us Chernobyl? Crime lords dress nice too if the Mob movies are to be believed...LOL!

Over here in Coos Bay, I say if you see a guy in a suit and tie, it means someone's getting married, someone's having a funeral or someone's out to sell you something...LOL!

Rick

 

[1991Brougham 10+ year member]

Believe it or not, breaking into my truck is far worse.
The money they "stole" and I don't see it as theft...it isn't like a bunch of people made out with the bailout, ie I bet there are more auto burglarists than folks who made any real money...And the bailout was a function of raising of the Q ceiling and Fed Chairman Paul Volker's assualt on inflation more than "theft"

With that aside, breaking into my truck is personal. It is a violation of my personal space and should be treated with much harsher judgement than currently issued...(for instance, if there was bill that said I am going to raise your property tax by $500 and all people caught breaking into cars will have a mandatory 3 year imprisonment, I would support it). When you steal from the aggregate, $500 billion divided among 300 million people, is what $1600?

Crime seems to hurt worse when it hits home literally but the white collar crime just keeps going like an Energizer bunny, raking in the money and eating away like a cancer. Do you like today's high gas prices? What about the insurance rates? The cost of complying with regulations? The amount of taxes you pay?

If I stole everything you had for audio gear and gave you back for a whole year everything you paid directly and indirectly toward the costs of white collar crime and out-and-out corruption, you would likely be ahead of the game...LOL!

Rick

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Crime seems to hurt worse when it hits home literally but the white collar crime just keeps going like an Energizer bunny, raking in the money and eating away like a cancer. Do you like today's high gas prices? What about the insurance rates? The cost of complying with regulations? The amount of taxes you pay?
If I stole everything you had for audio gear and gave you back for a whole year everything you paid directly and indirectly toward the costs of white collar crime and out-and-out corruption, you would likely be ahead of the game...LOL!

Rick

Again, I see taxation and paying for compliance regulations as simply a cost of doing business. It is based on my earnings potential and my willingness to consume.

Like I said, when theft hits home, it is $1,200 on one fell swoop, not to mention the lack of audios over the period, the increased paranoia from another possible attack, driving around a few days with no window, etc. Those things, imo, are far worse than the same amount distributed over a year. Since it is spread out so thinly, it is not as signifcant.

Furthermore, I do not think today's gas prices are high. I am very surprised that they are so low.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Corporate suits cause death too. Ever hear of Bhopal, where Dow Chemical had a little accident? Or how about the bureaucratic suits who gave us Chernobyl?

Rick

I fail to see the link between the Fed preserving the financial stability of America with an international incident regarding nuclear power.

 

[1991Brougham 10+ year member]

I fail to see the link between the Fed preserving the financial stability of America with an international incident regarding nuclear power.

Okay, so you fail...LOL!

Have a day

Rick

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Okay, so you fail...LOL!
Have a day

Rick

Sounds good.

Perhaps you could explain it.

 

[jer_stud56 10+ year member]

In my finance class we were just talking about minorities moving into neighborhoods, and then all the caucasian people moving out, lowering the economy in the area because they had all the money. If the white people would stay that would potentially not happen.

So basically any community that was once nice and turned around due to hispanic or african american people moving in who are much more poor, is due to caucasian people moving away, not what you initially think.

 

[thekraka]

I fail to see the link between the Fed preserving the financial stability of America with an international incident regarding nuclear power.

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[thekraka]

In my finance class we were just talking about minorities moving into neighborhoods, and then all the caucasian people moving out, lowering the economy in the area because they had all the money. If the white people would stay that would potentially not happen.
So basically any community that was once nice and turned around due to hispanic or african american people moving in who are much more poor, is due to caucasian people moving away, not what you initially think.

...could you show me the number or % of suburbs/neighborhoods/areas that have been negatively affected by a large number of caucasians leaving?....secondly if the caucasions in the area were well to do people that had all the money then most likely poor people couldnt afford to live in the same area???