Ugh this is obnixious

hhhmmm, not sure where you get people call you unamerican. I agree with you in many things. C6 and mustang is the only cars you would consider?? I think the new caddy's haul *** and look hot. I also like the new Ford Fusion. The gap is closing for sure. One thing I cant stand is the ******* dealerhips who are liars and thiefs. I also dont like UAW. its got to go and might not last to long, who knows. In a year or so i will be buying a new car and def will be american. But cmon, jsut becuase you dont like SUV's doesnt mean everyone shouldnt drive one. I cant stand when people call American cars gas guzzlers and not enviormentally friendly, its BS. I dont look at it that way. I look at the companies who throw toxins in our rivers. I look at companies who dump hazordous materials in our lands. I dont give a shit about 8mpg truck. GE dumped PCB's in teh Hudson river for YEARS. Now you cant even go fishing in that river, isnt that sad?? Thats the BIG stuff, not a hummer.
Ralph
Oh, I agree- coroprate evironmental pollution is horrific, but the #1 source of pollution is auto emissions- because there are way more cars running around than polluting factories. Industry does not get a pass from me by any means, and I am in no way one of the idiot tree-hugging environmentalists that seem to spawn like a virus in the pac NW. I know auto manufacturers build for the market. I know currently the market is cars and trucks- heck even Honda has 3 SUV's and a truck (though the CRV and Element are more tall cars than SUV's) and I have watched thier fuel economy remain static as the size of cars has increased- this is not progress to me either. I think the problem is the prevailing attitude of americans that don't give a crap about fuel economy but then bich about having to send troops to foreign lands to secure the oil our society requires.

I am an ASE Certified Master Auto Technician:laugh: //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif :laugh:
You go boy.
And what might your qualifications on the subject be? Your parents and grandparents bought domestic cars and you will too? That is truly impressive and highly credible. Knucklehead- this thread started as a quality of amps has gone down, until you made an idiotic blast about how Honda has ruined the economy, and then it turned into what it has, you maintaining your myopic views despite credible evidence to the contrary. Nobody is saying you are wrong to have the views you do, I am just saying the views and opinions you do have are shortsighted and inaccurate. Laugh all you want, I am proud of my knowledge of auto repairs and my ability to keep cars on the road. The job doesn't carry any glory or pay huge money, but I do okay and get to feel good about maintaining peoples second most valuable posessions- thier cars- something they depend on nearly every day. So what do you do that qualifies you to laugh at me? You're a real jerk-off.

 
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And what might your qualifications on the subject be? Your parents and grandparents bought domestic cars and you will too? That is truly impressive and highly credible. Knucklehead- this thread started as a quality of amps has gone down, until you made an idiotic blast about how Honda has ruined the economy, and then it turned into what it has, you maintaining your myopic views despite credible evidence to the contrary. Nobody is saying you are wrong to have the views you do, I am just saying the views and opinions you do have are shortsighted and inaccurate. Laugh all you want, I am proud of my knowledge of auto repairs and my ability to keep cars on the road. The job doesn't carry any glory or pay huge money, but I do okay and get to feel good about maintaining peoples second most valuable posessions- thier cars- something they depend on nearly every day. So what do you do that qualifies you to laugh at me? You're a real jerk-off.
Laughing at you was wrong and I apoloigze for that. I have an acquaintance that is an ASE tech and I wuold never let him work on my car. Not because he's stupid but because he's sloppy. And the other day he made the same statement and it just made me laugh and then you make that statement in here and it made me laugh. Nothing personal.

But one thing is for sure, I will buy anything and everything I can domestic. Nothing is going to change that. Not your word not that little idiot bimma's stupid comments or anything. Thats just who I am and how I was brought up. I am from a union family and I was never allowed to own anything NON american made. I thought that to be narrow minded when I was young but now I see why my parents were that way. Anyway, I've rambled long enough and I think this thread's original topic is dead so I guess I'll let it rest as I am one of the main reasons it got off topic to begin with.

 
Laughing at you was wrong and I apoloigze for that. I have an acquaintance that is an ASE tech and I wuold never let him work on my car. Not because he's stupid but because he's sloppy. And the other day he made the same statement and it just made me laugh and then you make that statement in here and it made me laugh. Nothing personal.
But one thing is for sure, I will buy anything and everything I can domestic. Nothing is going to change that. Not your word not that little idiot bimma's stupid comments or anything. Thats just who I am and how I was brought up. I am from a union family and I was never allowed to own anything NON american made. I thought that to be narrow minded when I was young but now I see why my parents were that way. Anyway, I've rambled long enough and I think this thread's original topic is dead so I guess I'll let it rest as I am one of the main reasons it got off topic to begin with.
what your family does is all good... don't come pushing your families traditions and beliefs on us //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif. I bet you are wearing an asian made article of clothing, but it all good man //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif.... beside I'm just a "little idiot" (that wasn't mature, wasnt nice either //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crying.gif.ec0ebefe590df0251476573bc49e46d8.gif ) //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 
what your family does is all good... don't come pushing your families traditions and beliefs on us //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif. I bet you are wearing an asian made article of clothing, but it all good man //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
Again and for the last time. I said I will buy American made stuff whenever possible. Why does this NOT sink into your skull?? I realize this is hard to do but I can do what I can and nothing else.

.... beside I'm just a "little idiot" (that wasn't mature, wasnt nice either //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crying.gif.ec0ebefe590df0251476573bc49e46d8.gif ) //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
mature???? So taking things out of this thread and blasting me in a totally different thread is mature?? Whatever you say and my comment stands. Eugenics is just a ****in idiot who does nothing but agitate and contributes nothing to the forums. So if you wanna jump on the band wagon and team up on someone then you're just an idiot and nothing more. I personally have never jumped in a flame session and stick up for my opinion and thats probably why I get flamed from time to time. But hey Ican take it.

 
mature???? So taking things out of this thread and blasting me in a totally different thread is mature?? Whatever you say and my comment stands. Eugenics is just a ****in idiot who does nothing but agitate and contributes nothing to the forums. So if you wanna jump on the band wagon and team up on someone then you're just an idiot and nothing more. I personally have never jumped in a flame session and stick up for my opinion and thats probably why I get flamed from time to time. But hey Ican take it.
Yea that was pretty childish, my bad. I however don't like people calling me unamerican because I drive a toyota //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif

Again and for the last time. I said I will buy American made stuff whenever possible. Why does this NOT sink into your skull?? I realize this is hard to do but I can do what I can and nothing else.
So lemme get this straight, you call me unamerican for driving a toyota. However, you can wear some nikes(or whatever you wear) and think you are any more american than I am. That's just bullshit man.

 
Yea that was pretty childish, my bad. I however don't like people calling me unamerican because I drive a toyota //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif
Look here. I was pissed that day and spoke out of anger. Enough said and lets move past that.

So lemme get this straight, you call me unamerican for driving a toyota. However, you can wear some nikes(or whatever you wear) and think you are any more american than I am. That's just bullshit man.
First of all I don't wear Nikes. Not just because where they're made but because they're over priced and the new stuff is well.........ugly. With clothing now a days its much harder to find American made stuff. With a car you DO have a choice and GM, Ford and Chrysler are right there for me to choose from and thats who I'm going to buy from....end of that story. I'm saying when you have a choice between American made stuff and NON American made stuff then you should choose American made. Thats MY opinion and feelings and beliefs. I didn't mean to come off like I did earlier in this thread but like I said I was angry and lashed out. So in my way of thinking, you driving a Toyota doesn't exactly make you a patriot. But I can't stop you from buying it and driving it so thats where I need to learn to look the other way and calm down. I'm done on this topic.

 
the people who MOD hondas are rice burners, the cars ....are NOT
Bullshit. The people who mod their hondas are RICERS not rice burners which is what Japanese cars are.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 
So in my way of thinking, you driving a Toyota doesn't exactly make you a patriot. But I can't stop you from buying it and driving it so thats where I need to learn to look the other way and calm down. I'm done on this topic.
I am reading this wrong?? Are you still saying because of my choice of a non domestic, that I am not patriotic(if that is really how you feel, than I feel sorry you) ?

Is the government not patriotic because they allow these companies to sell here? Do you really feel this country would be better off not having products from anywhere else in the world, and not selling products anywhere else? My choice on car doesnt make you any more patriotic than me //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Bullshit. The people who mod their hondas are RICERS not rice burners which is what Japanese cars are.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif
what about people with bimmers, audi, benz what are they called?

 
I am reading this wrong?? Are you still saying because of my choice of a non domestic, that I am not patriotic(if that is really how you feel, than I feel sorry you) ?
You asked my opinion and I gave it to you. I never said you had to like it.

Is the government not patriotic because they allow these companies to sell here? Do you really feel this country would be better off not having products from anywhere else in the world, and not selling products anywhere else? My choice on car doesnt make you any more patriotic than me //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif
Don't get me started on our gov't. In short, most of our government is very unpatriotic. What I'm saying is we would be better off having mfg jobs in this country and not outsourcing the jobs therefore the stuff that is being made in India and China would be made here and Americans would be working. Thats my whole point.

what about people with bimmers, audi, benz what are they called?
Whatever the fuck you wanna call them. Those are much more expensive cars and there aren't as many of them so it is not as big of a problem....not even close.

 
Whatever the fuck you wanna call them. Those are much more expensive cars and there aren't as many of them so it is not as big of a problem....not even close.
So, mercedes, audi, bmw etc dont take as much money out of sales as the japs? Maybe you are right, I couldnt say for sure. But I highly doubt that.

Don't get me started on our gov't. In short, most of our government is very unpatriotic. What I'm saying is we would be better off having mfg jobs in this country and not outsourcing the jobs therefore the stuff that is being made in India and China would be made here and Americans would be working. Thats my whole point.
So then we could all pay much more for our items and have even less money? Uh no thanks //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif. That's just silly imo //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif. There are already plenty of jobs here anyways. If you look, you can find a job //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif. And if there are jobs here for us, whats wrong with giving some jobs to others?

 
I have an acquaintance that is an ASE tech and I wuold never let him work on my car. Not because he's stupid but because he's sloppy.
An ASE certification doesn't garuntee quality but it does show knowledge of the different systems. I know what you are saying- I have seen a ton of people in my line of work that are straight up hacks that I wouldn't let touch my car either and unfortunately I get lumped in with "mechanics" when the reason I enjoy my job is driveability stuff and electronics (though multiplexing is a pain in the ***) It's all good- we disagree, and I can live with that, that's why this country kicks ***- we can have differing opinions.

 
So then we could all pay much more for our items and have even less money? Uh no thanks //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif. That's just silly imo //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif. There are already plenty of jobs here anyways. If you look, you can find a job //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif. And if there are jobs here for us, whats wrong with giving some jobs to others?
This statement is how I know you aren't very smart. You obviously don't read the paper or watch the news. Every day you hear about a corp outsourcing a plant overseas. Or a plant is just closing their doors becasue they just cant stay in business. Those aren't signs of a thriving economy my friend. Those are signs of bad times and more to come. Our rate of unemployment increases every year. What rock did you say you live under again.???

If jobs were here then consumers would have more money to pay a little bit higher price for goods to compensate for the higher wages paid to American workers. The main reason for outsourcing ( regardless of what corporations want to tell you) is to keep the profit margin in the company at the top and NOT pay a liveable wage to workers. Are you an American worker?? Seriously man.........you're wayyyyy off on this one.

 
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