u.f.c. 97

[bones22 5,000+ posts]

here is the issue, flopping on your back doesnt get takedowns, that is part of the game, if u cant fight on your feet, u better learn to take someone down.
how can you say Silva doesnt deserve the belt? thats just makes you look stupid. HE HAS LOST ONE ROUND in all of his title defenses. he doesnt fight chumps like leites did, he fights the number one contenders, too bad they are no where close to him.

maybe Dana White should find some better middle weights, its not Silva's fault Leites couldn't even put a chink in his armor

im not taking anything away from Silva really but he doesnt deserve a win for this one.

we will have to agree to disagree though.

personally i feel that Leites was the only one trying to fight. now it didnt look very good of course. by the 3rd round even his stand up was subpar. he just wanted it over. rightfully so.

he was attempting to fight and Silva stood back to make the ref stand Leites up.

that IS NOT A CHAMPION WAY TO FIGHT

from the article so everyone doesnt have to read word for word if they dont want.

But with Silva's second-straight sub-par performance, the UFC executive said he will need to have a serious conversation with his 185-pound champ.

 

"We run a fight company, and when guys don't fight, we sit down (with them) and have a conversation on why they're not fighting," White said. "This is what I do. It's like having any other business and the guy doesn't come out and perform at work."

 

Never one to reserve his true feelings, White's criticism of his champion was certainly warranted. But despite all of the negative discussion surrounding Saturday's main event, White still believes "The Spider" is the world's best fighter.

 

While still very supportive of his middleweight champ, White's message to Silva was stern and direct. Silva's reply was equally transparent.

 

"Dana, I'm sorry," Silva said. "Next time I'll be better."

(i wont hold my breath for this one. his next fight will be the exact same as the last 9)

 

[DePratt 10+ year member]

i agree a champion should take the fight where ever it goes, but he was in the business of winning, not risking getting tapped or caught and KOed.

(Think Silvia & Noguera)

 

[bones22 5,000+ posts]

it was a horrible fight for both of them. neither one belonged in there last night.

as the champ though Silva in my opinion looked the worst of the 2 since he is the "CHAMP"

 

[bones22 5,000+ posts]

i agree a champion should take the fight where ever it goes, but he was in the business of winning, not risking getting tapped or caught and KOed.
(Think Silvia & Noguera)

exactly my point. Leites did the exact same thing.

Leites did more to get the fight going. he couldnt take it to the ground so he stood with someone that is far better at standup than he is. Silva just connected more with his kicks (which i wasnt impressed at all with compared to past fights) since he was scared to death to go to the ground.

 

[Mannystunts]

I only watched it to round two, and silva was doing jus fine.

 

[bones22 5,000+ posts]

I only watched it to round two, and silva was doing jus fine.

round 1 was pretty much never happened. 4 minutes of Silva walking around and pulling away from everything.

the last 30 seconds or so was ok. round 2 was decent if it wasnt the main event fight.

 

[thegreatestpenn 5,000+ posts]

Champs have earned the title. I philosophy is to be the best YOU HAVE TO BEAT THE BEST. Unsuccessfully trying to pull guard (Leites) is not trying to beat the best. Silva doesn't have to prove anything to ANYBODY. He's got the highlight reel of knockouts already to his credit as well as a flawless record in the UFC. If people don't want to fight him then that's their problem. They are the ones that will have the loss on their record and be regarded to lesser fights.

 

[bones22 5,000+ posts]

Champs have earned the title. I philosophy is to be the best YOU HAVE TO BEAT THE BEST. Unsuccessfully trying to pull guard (Leites) is not trying to beat the best. Silva doesn't have to prove anything to ANYBODY. He's got the highlight reel of knockouts already to his credit as well as a flawless record in the UFC. If people don't want to fight him then that's their problem. They are the ones that will have the loss on their record and be regarded to lesser fights.

if a champ wants to gain a flawless record by not bringing anything to the fight thats up to them.

with all the skill Silva has he should want to give up then win. all of his fights in the UFS are mirror images of eachother. he stays away from everything.

ok yea thats part of it and whoever he is fighting needs to come forward. even when they do all he does is backs up.

with the performance (or lack of it) in his last 2 fights especially he should consider going to the WWE or some other fake/play fighting.

 

[thegreatestpenn 5,000+ posts]

if a champ wants to gain a flawless record by not bringing anything to the fight thats up to them.with all the skill Silva has he should want to give up then win. all of his fights in the UFS are mirror images of eachother. he stays away from everything.

ok yea thats part of it and whoever he is fighting needs to come forward. even when they do all he does is backs up.

with the performance (or lack of it) in his last 2 fights especially he should consider going to the WWE or some other fake/play fighting.

i graciously disagree. HE IS THE CHAMP. Why should he fight someone else's fight? Why should he leave himself open for our entertainment? THat's just STUPID. Do you prefer STUPID champions for your enjoyment???? if so don't be so self-righteous please.

 

[bones22 5,000+ posts]

i graciously disagree. HE IS THE CHAMP. Why should he fight someone else's fight? Why should he leave himself open for our entertainment? THat's just STUPID. Do you prefer STUPID champions for your enjoyment???? if so don't be so self-righteous please.

no i would just like to see a MMA fighter than happens to be the champ fight like he wants/deserves to be in the MMA and wants/deserves to be the champ.

 

[thegreatestpenn 5,000+ posts]

no i would just like to see a MMA fighter than happens to be the champ fight like he wants/deserves to be in the MMA and wants/deserves to be the champ.

I totally understand, and I'm sure his paychecks will get smaller if he keeps on like this. That is usually a good motivator for fighters

 

[01 S 10 10+ year member]

im not taking anything away from Silva really but he doesnt deserve a win for this one.
we will have to agree to disagree though.

personally i feel that Leites was the only one trying to fight. now it didnt look very good of course. by the 3rd round even his stand up was subpar. he just wanted it over. rightfully so.

he was attempting to fight and Silva stood back to make the ref stand Leites up.

that IS NOT A CHAMPION WAY TO FIGHT

from the article so everyone doesnt have to read word for word if they dont want.

But with Silva's second-straight sub-par performance, the UFC executive said he will need to have a serious conversation with his 185-pound champ.

 

"We run a fight company, and when guys don't fight, we sit down (with them) and have a conversation on why they're not fighting," White said. "This is what I do. It's like having any other business and the guy doesn't come out and perform at work."

 

Never one to reserve his true feelings, White's criticism of his champion was certainly warranted. But despite all of the negative discussion surrounding Saturday's main event, White still believes "The Spider" is the world's best fighter.

 

While still very supportive of his middleweight champ, White's message to Silva was stern and direct. Silva's reply was equally transparent.

 

"Dana, I'm sorry," Silva said. "Next time I'll be better."

(i wont hold my breath for this one. his next fight will be the exact same as the last 9)

I can kind of agree with this, i think Leites was nervous as hell fighting Silva, i mean he should be. But when Leites kept flopping on his back, he looked weak doing that. but then again, Silva didnt go after him when he did that. I dont know Leites background, but maybe hes not as good standing up, idk. The whole 5 rounds just seemed like they were just wasting time because they both knew who was going to win. Silva is fckin beast tho, he should of fought someone better IMO

good ole Chuck... LOL.. what a disappointment. the famous one hit knock out he always seems to get delt //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif. he must have a bunch of pressure points that just are easy targets on him

 

[bones22 5,000+ posts]

i would say thats something that will probably happen. at the very least he should not be on a PPV fight card unless maybe hes an undercard.

champ or not he needs to show what he can do. if the other person isnt bringing the fight how he wants it to go then he needs to be a real champ and take the fight to them and make them pay for it.

 

[Annnarbor84 5,000+ posts]

annarbor84 , 01 S 10 , bones22 , CarAudio.com Admin , coupe man , DePratt , gymfreak101 , RUGERJITSU

Hi Goob:wave:

Also I am glad I did not pay to watch this. The beer and the waitresses were more important, that's when you know the fights were not entertaining:crap:

 

[bones22 5,000+ posts]

I can kind of agree with this, i think Leites was nervous as hell fighting Silva, i mean he should be. But when Leites kept flopping on his back, he looked weak doing that. but then again, Silva didnt go after him when he did that. I dont know Leites background, but maybe hes not as good standing up, idk. The whole 5 rounds just seemed like they were just wasting time because they both knew who was going to win. Silva is fckin beast tho, he should of fought someone better IMO

Liddel.... LOL.. what a disappointment. the famous one hit knock out he always seems to get delt //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

Leites has a decent stand up but on the ground there arent many that can compare. he looked even worse "flopping" on his back because every time Silva just backed away knowing what would happen. Leites didnt do himself any favors but at least he made some attempt to fight Silva's fight.

we have all seen chuck take way more than that but sadly it may be time to walk away with his head high.