Will be Treo dealer real soon, so hang on to your horses, just heard every line they have and got to mess with every amp they have on sunday, and my brother is selling his CTS to get a H2 hummer to run all treo 2 18s plus two 4.1ds which is around 11,000wrms they do 5900wrms each, and im switching to 4 15" Treos off of one 6.1D which is 8000wrms+!!! There nasty subs the two 18" SSXs i heard are rated at 2500wrms and were getting 5000wrms+ on music for 20min straight and never even thought twice, and was doing a 153 @ 28hz in a cadillac EXT blow threw style!!