To the libs who believe obama's policies work

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

An interesting observation here is that this is a direct example of federal oversight ultimately benefitting the needs of the states I'm order to have a more level playing field. this is a a disconnect that Grover Nordquist (and the neocon movement) could never address, and thus choose to ignore.Just like farm subsidies and social security, which are popular programs amongst 'red states', but in reality are simply socialism writ

Large.

It is a farse that farm subsidies and social security are popular with Conservatives. We all know social security is the biggest pyramid scheme ever created, and paying people to not farm/work is far from our core set of values. Becoming educated on a subject before one speaks about it is paramount to one's credibility.

I think you are missing his point. Red State = Conservative...

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

ecrack is not doing a very good job explaining the conservative position. Reason is that there is no one in recent memory (including Reagan) that were real conservatives. We don't have anyone really to model after, just a bunch of people with ideas. Ron Paul is close...although he is libertarian....which is related, but dissimilar to what is known as conservatism.

 

[ahole-ic]

I think you are missing his point. Red State = Conservative...

Red State = Republican.

 

[ahole-ic]

ecrack is not doing a very good job explaining the conservative position. Reason is that there is no one in recent memory (including Reagan) that were real conservatives. We don't have anyone really to model after, just a bunch of people with ideas. Ron Paul is close...although he is libertarian....which is related, but dissimilar to what is known as conservatism.

I am responding to their comments. They wouldn't understand if I explained Conservatism.

 

[bubbagumper6 5,000+ posts]

In the 2000 presidential election, the Florida vote was very close. Election night based on exit polling the major networks all projected Gore to be the winner but as the results came in they retracted that and declared Bush the winner. Later they retracted that and called it "too close to call". The election night results had Bush in the lead by 1,700 votes, the margin wasn't high enough and triggered an automatic recount. After the recount Bush still had a 537 vote lead. Gore and Bush kept challenging the results in court. It was a big mess with arguments over hanging chads, the butterfly ballots, and selective recounts. Finally, the Supreme Court stepped in and put and end to the final partial recount, Bush still had a 154 vote lead when the count was stopped. Seven of the Justices felt that only recounting select counties violated the equal protection clause. So the final certified total reverted back to the first recount and gave Bush the win by 537 votes. That meant Bush was awarded the 25 electors from Florida which was enough to beat Gore. Nationally Bush didn't win the popular vote but he won the election. Any problems in the 2000 election weren't from the electoral college, it worked as it was designed, all the controversy was caused by the way the Florida recounts were handled.

Thanks man, at least some good came from this thread (I learned something)

 

[bubbagumper6 5,000+ posts]

Well I don't really care much about politics but I will say whatever law Obama passed that allows me to stay on my parent's health insurance until I'm 25 is pretty nice...saves me a chunk of change //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[globalminds_ent 10+ year member]

its to 26 actually and businesses need regulations these big companies would have us working like those people who work at Foxconn in China the first second that they could. These republicans don't care about people at all, all they care about is being rich. They tell u people this to your face everyday, but u want to be a ******* and vote for them anyways. Obama is winning this election and he is winning big I can't wait to vote for him -

 

[ahole-ic]

its to 26 actually and businesses need regulations these big companies would have us working like those people who work at Foxconn in China the first second that they could. These republicans don't care about people at all, all they care about is being rich. They tell u people this to your face everyday, but u want to be a ******* and vote for them anyways. Obama is winning this election and he is winning big I can't wait to vote for him -

Republicans care about everyone. You have no clue what you're talking about. It's democrats who don't care about anyone. They have been telling black people for decades that they weren't smart enough to be successful on their own so the democrats will give them more money for welfare and baby mommas. They are keeping the black man down. There is no earthly reason to have people trying to get money for "the black community". That is racist. Black people are just people. They are as smart and hard working a people as anyone else. To tell them they NEED government handouts to survive is just plain racist... but the democrats do it year after year because they are buying votes. They tell you this every day, but you want to be a ******* and vote for them anyways.

 

[DoesDad 10+ year member]

Bro, you could have been on your plan until you were 25 all along. He extended it two years longer. And I'm stoked you like it. Because the rest of us got a rate incrase that actually pays for your ***. Socialism at it's finest. Get a job bro

My sentiments exactly. You better watch it though Spider Monkey when globalminds gets mad he pulls out the race card! Lol! Just remember that all of us conservatives are racist.

 

[Scratchy 10+ year member]

The obtuseness and posturing in this thread is preposterous.

And I like Walker shortbread cookies.

They are full of buttery yumminess.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

its to 26 actually and businesses need regulations these big companies would have us working like those people who work at Foxconn in China the first second that they could. These republicans don't care about people at all, all they care about is being rich. They tell u people this to your face everyday, but u want to be a ******* and vote for them anyways. Obama is winning this election and he is winning big I can't wait to vote for him -

Republicans care about everyone. You have no clue what you're talking about. It's democrats who don't care about anyone.

While I think you are both intelligent individuals, I think you've both been duped by our political machine. Polarizing the population allows our politicians, on both sides, to get away with far more radicalism than would otherwise be tolerated. The democratic machine convinces its base that republicans only care about raping the middle class to feed the upper class, while the republican machine convinces its base that democrats just want to give free hand-outs to everyone except the top 1%. The truth is both sides have bad apples, and both sides have good ones. The truth is both sides want to improve society, albeit from an opposite direction.

You are falling right into the game DC wants, everyone to hate everyone else who disagrees with them politically. With that hate comes fear. With the fear comes a solidifying effect of the political base, even as their own side makes poor and/or selfish choices.

 

[globalminds_ent 10+ year member]

Republicans care about everyone. You have no clue what you're talking about. It's democrats who don't care about anyone. They have been telling black people for decades that they weren't smart enough to be successful on their own so the democrats will give them more money for welfare and baby mommas. They are keeping the black man down. There is no earthly reason to have people trying to get money for "the black community". That is racist. Black people are just people. They are as smart and hard working a people as anyone else. To tell them they NEED government handouts to survive is just plain racist... but the democrats do it year after year because they are buying votes. They tell you this every day, but you want to be a ******* and vote for them anyways.

that's clearly a racist statement since more white people are on welfare then black, but I bet fox news doesn't tell u that

 

[wenn_du_weinst 10+ year member]

Only the poor complain about republicans being ''rich''

I could care less, I make enough money to live comfortably and do pretty much anything I wanted to do. Do I drive a lambo? nope but I sure can't blame ''Republican'" people for trying to be rich.