To eD or not to eD,that is the question

[jujumantb 10+ year member]

That forum of theres reminds me of a nazi brainwash camp.

No different than this forum...

most people are simply ignorant of the fact. Thats why you see me sticking up for ED alot here. Not because I entirely agree with their practices in the past, but because their are too many 'brainwashed' people here and for the sake of newcomers, I think its important to have the other side of the story to combat the orgy of exagerated claims.

 

[desertheat 10+ year member]

Then feel free to enlighten me with your knowledge of the other side of the story since the only way you could stick up for them is know that side of the story. So lets hear it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif Why has ed done the things that have done, why are they the way they are, why did they screw over the us based build house recently to have subs copied and made in china instead. I gotta hear this one //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Also please use examples of how this forum is brainwashed compared to the ed forum. Do we ban people for saying anything slightly off about any brand on here? Ed does if you say anything at all bad about them. Please. go on and show me the light!

 

[chadillac3 10+ year member]

This forum should ban more people; too many jackasses. 1/3 of the people on here would be banned quickly on ECA.

I know most of the stories behind a lot of it; I don't agree with all the decisions Ben has made. But, like it or not, he's young and did make mistakes...and has learned from them.

To boot, eD is growing quickly, and they have leverage over suppliers finally. The type of leverage a company like Ascendent could only dream of at this point.

I like that when I read this thread I see the typical 8-10 people spewing their stories from 3-4 years ago, but I have a hard time finding any issues with the eDis, Kv2, Ov2s, and the newer deadeners.

eD is doing something right. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[desertheat 10+ year member]

um.... read the posts. There was nothing said about the newer subs other than ed did not design them, then they took the design and are having them made overseas. That is NOT 3-4 years ago. That is recent bad business. Guess he is still young *LOL* and still has allot of mistakes to make. Ah well. Like I said, I do not care either way really and am nutral. Just makes me laugh how hard people try to stick up for things they do not know that much about.

Also please share who these 8-10 people are with stories from 3-4 years ago //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif I wanna know who these bad people are so I can avoid them! Well... who are they are what are the old stories..?

 

[jlaine 10+ year member]

eD is doing something right. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

What's that? Hide behind a group of fools that lock, delete, edit, and ban anyone that thinks outside the box? Well that or talks about a comparative driver, asks a generally thought-provoking question... Or heck...

Always easy to control when you have everyone in lockstep...

You say learning from mistakes... I see learning how to better manipulate and use others as a buffer... Learning would imply one is maturing... Get the vocabulary right.

You're apparently the type that's ok supporting scum if the product is proper (assuming it is anyway), there are others that are not... You'll need to learn to accept the fact that they are real, just like others have to accept the fact that you are. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[chubby 10+ year member]

What's that? Hide behind a group of fools that lock, delete, edit, and ban anyone that thinks outside the box? Well that or talks about a comparative driver, asks a generally thought-provoking question... Or heck...
Always easy to control when you have everyone in lockstep...

You say learning from mistakes... I see learning how to better manipulate and use others as a buffer... Learning would imply one is maturing... Get the vocabulary right.

You're apparently the type that's ok supporting scum if the product is proper (assuming it is anyway), there are others that are not... You'll need to learn to accept the fact that they are real, just like others have to accept the fact that you are. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

JLaine has spoken.

 

[jlaine 10+ year member]

Oh... Also...

Learning = maturing... Maturing would be facing your past lies, problems, deceit, and fixing the problems you've left hidden and the people you've burned for a profit... That would show me learning... All I've seen is greed.

Why is it that you feel the need to intervene in these situations anymore, if you find them so comical? The only real reason I responded is because I saw you - chadillac - saying the same thing I've seen you saying for the past 2 years... So I say to myself... There's chad... I may as well pluck the strings some since he seems to want to... So I guess the moral of the story today is... He's screwed people over in the past, outright lied about products to bring himself to where he is today, but that doesn't matter because today he supposedly is better - more 'mature' or 'learned'... Even though he's made no attempts to address or remedy the things he's done in his past. Used me for several years... Then pitched me aside when the opportunity arose... A simple explanation and an apology would have buried a lot, somehow though that never came to be... Fast foward to where?

All the things that show maturity - advancement - growth... I've seen nothing of it.

JLaine has spoken.

Can't speak... Lost voice to pneumonia... I'll type though if that's ok.

 

[jujumantb 10+ year member]

not josh! I quit...

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[jlaine 10+ year member]

not josh! I quit...
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Actually - oddly enough...

I had a discussion with someone I respect more than anyone else in the world, and his advice was to confront, not expect to be confronted.

So I'm going to try to arrange a phone call with Ben, with me doing the unthinkable and making the initial contact. Perhaps I can in some way help put some of this all to rest.

 

[Ignatowski 5,000+ posts]

Shut the **** up you douchebag, I'll slap the taste out of your mouth.
Since you know where Babylon is...come and see me.

hey *******,get me an addy and ill introduce myself:drool:

 

[jujumantb 10+ year member]

Also please use examples of how this forum is brainwashed compared to the ed forum.

By that I more meant "easily influenced" The amount of "boners" on this site is ridiculous, you get a few people to support something (type R's, audiomobile, ED, rip on ED, RE etc..) and all of a sudden the bandwagon effect takes off.

Do we ban people for saying anything slightly off about any brand on here? Ed does if you say anything at all bad about them. Please. go on and show me the light!

This is a GENERAL car audio forum not run by a car audio company.

common sense man, dont go to a company's forum and bash their stuff, especially a largely internet based company, you cant be TOO surprised in the results of doing that. I'm not saying to go there for unbiased ED knowledge either, thats just as stupid.

Again, the only reason I "stick up" for ED is for the sake of a consumer in which a current ED product would work great for them, I know alot of them have worked perfect for me in the past. If this kind of bashing was going on back then, I would NEVER have bought ED, and you know what, not buying from them would have been a mistake for me... I dont want other people to make that mistake.

 

[Chevillac 5,000+ posts]

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Actually - oddly enough...

I had a discussion with someone I respect more than anyone else in the world, and his advice was to confront, not expect to be confronted.

So I'm going to try to arrange a phone call with Ben, with me doing the unthinkable and making the initial contact. Perhaps I can in some way help put some of this all to rest.

I know this is really none of my business. But why now? and why does it matter that much to you? Im just curious.

 

[jujumantb 10+ year member]

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So I'm going to try to arrange a phone call with Ben, with me doing the unthinkable and making the initial contact. Perhaps I can in some way help put some of this all to rest.

Thats very respectable, hope to hear how that turns out //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[jlaine 10+ year member]

I know this is really none of my business. But why now? and why does it matter that much to you? Im just curious.

I considered ben a good friend a long time ago, and some things that have happened to me in my life recently have softened me up some I guess...

I don't let go of bad blood easily - and there is a lot of it to let go at this point.

 

[Eldorado 5,000+ posts]

Wooooo sahhhhh

What was the topis of this thread again?