To eD or not to eD,that is the question

[flakko 5,000+ posts]

Wow, someone didnt install their deadening properly and now the product is at fault. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif
Nice try.

i find that funny. i installed 3 layers of Second skin hazmat the exact same way and guess what? it hasnt fallen off like the edead.

lol mention eD once, and a thread goez crazy

 

[takeabao 10+ year member]

Wow hypnoz, you sure do love ed.

Haha. You should read his posts over on ICIX.

Too bad a moderator deleted the thread regarding the DIYMA Reference 12" and consequently Hypnoz's comments as well.

While I do agree with some of the stuff he's said, I definitely don't feel like eD is the end-all, always-right child in the car audio industry. I do share some of the anti-eD sentiment as well, but that's not saying much on a forum with members ignorant towards JL Audio and their success.

Would I still use an eD product? At the right price point, yes. The eu-700s were pretty cool for my intents and purposes and the Nine.x series amps are solid for the price.

Hell, I still have the free 12" K-series flatcone Ben sent to me free back in the day.

 

[flakko 5,000+ posts]

While I do agree with some of the stuff he's said, I definitely don't feel like eD is the end-all, always-right child in the car audio industry.

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[takeabao 10+ year member]

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Shhh!!!!

You're gonna start another flame war inside this thread!!!

 

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

How do you figure?
Let's examine. The 13Ov.2 is rated at 600W RMS. This is less then half of what is needed to achieve xmax. I was putting 900w RMS on mine for months and it was loving it.

2nd gen K series, after them and Resonance split ways.

Ben was told that the driver should see no more then 300w RMS. He had 900w listed for the 15"....//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

 

[flakko 5,000+ posts]

also take into consideration the box it was put into?

 

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

Yeah, it does. There is a tiny thing called 'language barrier'. The contract they sent Ben was rediculous, so instead of just going ahead with the order and hoping they don't screw everyone over, he decided to not go through. I'd say that is **** good business practice.


He did do his research. They were using the same HU on their project car with great results. It was a group buy from a Russian company, that's why. I highly doubt you are a grandmaster in business ethics. From reading your posts I (and I think others who aren't on the "hate ed" bandwagon will agree) you sound like an angry 16 year old.

Apparently you can't even understand the simple concept of a pre-order. You order it prior to production, and in turn get it at a reduced price. When you order pre-production, things are subject to delays. Such is life.

I'm sure it is horrible. That's why they are doing so well.

eDuh..... that definitely improves your credibility //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/hilarious.gif.02a037aad04aa96f19982b298a3d70a8.gif

Your logic is horrible.

Why in the world would a company start a preorder, take money for said preorder, when this supposed 'contract' is illegible from eDuh's standpoint? I'm glad you stated that Ben decided to 'not go through' with the deal...when it should have never started to begin with.

If you have a contract in front of you...that's in a different language...wouldn't you take the appropriate actions to fully examine said contract //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

I do uncerstand the concept of a preorder...from a business standpoint...you should do one of 2 things:

-do not give promise dates (which Ben did a million times over)

-do not charge people for a product months prior to them receiving said product (which, IIRC, is against the law)

I was involved in 2 preorders through eDuh. Each time, my card was charged almost immediately. Each time, I was told time and time again I will be receiving said product in x amount of days. Each time, that 'x' changed from week to week. Each time, I was told the product has arrived, and is going through QC before being sent out. Each time, that was a blatant lie, because each time, the products were no where near arriving to eDuh's facility.

Go and ask Ben why when I called him out on his own forum, with his own words...he acted like a coward and had my post deleted and banned me...when all I did was copy/paste a post he had made on Sin? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

Maybe we should treat Hypnoz like we get treated on iCIX...

Delete all his posts or ban him...

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[Eldorado 5,000+ posts]

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x52

 

[Chevillac 5,000+ posts]

Maybe we should treat Hypnoz like we get treated on iCIX...
Delete all his posts or ban him...

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Im up for it. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

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[takeabao 10+ year member]

Maybe we should treat Hypnoz like we get treated on iCIX...
Delete all his posts or ban him...

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*cough*

*gag*

Sorry, I'm choking on the irony. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[desertheat 10+ year member]

Bah it is freedom of speach. "besides it gives us somthing to do and laugh at" Besides that, the world needs to be able to search topics like this to see what people think of ed.

Or just treat him how the ed nazi forum does... first tell him he is wrong, do not give him time to respond, ban him and his IP for life and pray he has a static ip haha.

 

[Hypnoz 10+ year member]

Wow hypnoz, you sure do love ed. Do you know who designed your beloved 13Ov2 you now own? Do you know who "what company and designer" was screwed over on the design by yet again - horrible business ethics..? Do you know were your precious sub is now made after the royal screwing occured? Sorry man, I deal only with great companies. Not great salesmen or business men that screw customers over. That forum of theres reminds me of a nazi brainwash camp. Sickening.
Also do you know the new series of subs like your 13Ov2 is not over-rated because the designer of that sub would not allow it because of that build houses warranty? then since specs were posted by ed, designs were copied and subs are being built in china, they will not change the specs since everyone knows the specs..? Bah. I wish more of you people could know about what goes on behind the scenes in car audio. Allot of it cracks me up, allot of it is sad.

Also the T/s specs of the sub were "rounded off" to make it seem a little better than the real t/s of the sub? great sub, but funny crap haha. Guess ed likes to round it's numbers, who cares about the real detailes specs.

I also find it funny you are running avionix amps... A little birdy told me that is who is building ED's amps for them overseas... hmmm interesting.

I was using 1 avionixx AMP (not plural). In fact, my system is not even hooked up yet as I'm switching cars. I am selling the avionixx soon because stepping up to a better SQ amp.

As far as your post, how about some proof?

 

[desertheat 10+ year member]

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif :crazy: //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif :crazy: Yeah I need to show proof to you, a 17 year old super noob in the audio world *LOL* How about the simple fact that I have been to the build house that Ed had there subs built, but the owner asked me not to come out tell the entire story. Hell I have pics of tons of prototype subs built for ed by the build house that got screwed over when they copied the design and now are building them in china. how about others on this forum know exactly what I am talking about but we cannot come out and just say it for legal reasons. My god noob, you would learn allot more if you researched things instead of yapping about things you know nothing about. Your just a fanboy of ed and that is cool. Nothing wrong with there product. But purchasing from them supports crack dealers... hahaha that is all I have to say //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

But just to help you out with things I am not allowed to say. guys tell him who ED's build house used to be "which is common knowledge", if some of you know on this post, tell him who designed the current series of sq subs "which is common knowledge with many..." and if some of you know, tell him were ed subs are now being built "which ed should even admit unless they are fibbing again *LOL*

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

Maybe we should treat Hypnoz like we get treated on iCIX...
Delete all his posts or ban him...

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We don't want to bring ourselves down to their level //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif