To eD or not to eD,that is the question

[Eldorado 5,000+ posts]

morebetterer //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif

i guess that works //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

 

[pikers 10+ year member]

You know, he has a real knack (sp?) for overrating subs.

Just like every other 3rd tier audio brand on the planet. Like AudioBahn, Planet Audio, Audio Pipe (whatever the f^&k that is), Kenwood, and so on...

 

[FoxPro5 5,000+ posts]

yup,screw it I want the best I can find.......I won 24Gs last night on the slot machines

By "G's" you mean thousand right? As in $24,000 USD? Fuk, we need to hang out dude....that is some serious coin. Well if that's the case, please buy these so I can live vicariously through you: http://car.rainbow-audio.de/products/details.php?lan=2&pro=1&lin=1&art=231778

 

[Eldorado 5,000+ posts]

That xover is a beast !

 

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

wow,WTF happend to this tread I started...who knew it would cause a stirr?

Look peeps,I have had dealings with eD and I have had nothing but a

plesent experience,obviosly we have a few haters,most of which were guys that were causing trouble from the get go with eD himself.

Myself,I was just looking for suggestions and thoughts about the 6500's

which from all acounts of what I have been reading are good speakers,I havent made up my mind yet but I am seriosly considering Morel's end of story

bye

and snova031 grow the fvck up,you act like a little crybaby biotch

which is pretty typical of the Babylon LI population,nothing but biches

Shut the **** up you douchebag, I'll slap the taste out of your mouth.

Since you know where Babylon is...come and see me.

 

[El Ropo 10+ year member]

You know, he has a real knack (sp?) for overrating subs.

That's funny, I know of 2 people (one of them me) that has pushed a 13Kv2 with 800 watts rms in a sealed inclosure, the sub held up fine for 9 months till we both upgraded to a 13Ov2. Those two subs have been sold to another person in Austin, and they're still running fine. I just listened to my old sub in the dude's car yesterday, and it sounds sweet as ever.

There may have been some issues with their products a few years ago, but right now everything they sell is a solid performer except for their asphalt based deadening materials. They recently took care of that problem by releasing v1se2, which is butyl based.

I chalk it all up to a very young enthusiast who started his own business, got in way over his head, then learned from his mistakes, and continues to learn from his mistakes.

Before you label me a Noob, I've been in and around the industry since 1988, when many of you were still wearing pampers.

 

[Hypnoz 10+ year member]

Sorry, Russian. Makes a whole world of difference.

Yeah, it does. There is a tiny thing called 'language barrier'. The contract they sent Ben was rediculous, so instead of just going ahead with the order and hoping they don't screw everyone over, he decided to not go through. I'd say that is **** good business practice.

Fact of the matter is, Ben should have done his research before he starts taking other peoples money, like he's done before. Why take money from customers if you are unsure of product ever being delivered? Horrible business ethics, as Ben has shown time and time again.

He did do his research. They were using the same HU on their project car with great results. It was a group buy from a Russian company, that's why. I highly doubt you are a grandmaster in business ethics. From reading your posts I (and I think others who aren't on the "hate ed" bandwagon will agree) you sound like an angry 16 year old.

I waited several months for my 2 15A's...and my card was charged the next day after the order. I think I waited something like 5-6 months?
Also got charged on an original nine.1 order, waited several months for that, then the amps 'got stuck in Korea'. Yeah.

Apparently you can't even understand the simple concept of a pre-order. You order it prior to production, and in turn get it at a reduced price. When you order pre-production, things are subject to delays. Such is life.

I've never seen such shady business practices before. He's a horrible businessman, and he's shown that several times in the past. I'd truly be afraid to give him any more of my money.

I've dealt with just about every major car audio company there is- whether it be from a business standpoint, or a consumer standpoint. The pure crap that Ben spews to people is truly amazing.

I'm sure it is horrible. That's why they are doing so well.

Have fun with eDuh, and keep on truckin with the 1-year wait preorders.

eDuh..... that definitely improves your credibility //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/hilarious.gif.02a037aad04aa96f19982b298a3d70a8.gif

 

[Hypnoz 10+ year member]

Didn't Ben say himself they never will make Av2's??
Silly n00bs, riding Ben's dick.

No, he said that it is not on the top of their list of priorities. Good job researching the facts. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

Proof of bandwagonism.

 

[Hypnoz 10+ year member]

You know, he has a real knack (sp?) for overrating subs.

How do you figure?

Let's examine. The 13Ov.2 is rated at 600W RMS. This is less then half of what is needed to achieve xmax. I was putting 900w RMS on mine for months and it was loving it.

 

[Hypnoz 10+ year member]

Walmart never took my money and had me wait 6 months for a product, whilst promising said product should arrive in a few days, over and over again.
Do I have a personal vendetta against him? Ummm...yup. After all, he did lie to me on several occasions.

Yeah, well Wal-mart doesn't take preorders. I find it quite humorous that you can't even understand such a simple concept.

 

[Hypnoz 10+ year member]

wal-mart also never sold me deadener that had the same amount of adhesion as a brick....and then sold me more deadener they called "new and improved" and it was the same dammn shit....eD FTL

I've used eDead and it was just as good as dynamat I've used. In fact, I'd say it stuck better.

 

[Hypnoz 10+ year member]

aawww man you made the 3 timer's club....I'm only at 2....I gotta catch up!!//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif
Put it this way boys, the only reason ED is still in business is that people keep buying their products. You don't need to bash them, just don't give them your money. If no one supports them, they go out of business. There are like 25000 members on this forum....that's a lot of potential customers!

I personally feel that SOME of their products have good value, but I just don't agree with the way the company is run, nor do I particularly care for it's owner's attitude and the way he chooses to run it's forum.

Good point. Most all of their products are extremely good values though. Plus their customer support is very very good compared to some companies... (horrible time dealing with RE).

 

[Hypnoz 10+ year member]

Eh, **** eD, if it's questionable quality, why waste the money? Plus, I found name brand 8" subs for $50 a PAIR from a member here, why buy eu700's?

It's not questionable at all. You could make an arguement for their previous equiptment, but there are tons of people that love their current products. I could find a pair of eu-700's for $50 used likely. Not only that, but who knows the specs of the subs you are referring to, and who knows the SQ, etc. Quit spreading BS.

 

[Hypnoz 10+ year member]

^^^ there it is //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif at least a couple slabs stuck on there.

Wow, someone didnt install their deadening properly and now the product is at fault. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

Nice try.

 

[desertheat 10+ year member]

Wow hypnoz, you sure do love ed. Do you know who designed your beloved 13Ov2 you now own? Do you know who "what company and designer" was screwed over on the design by yet again - horrible business ethics..? Do you know were your precious sub is now made after the royal screwing occured? Sorry man, I deal only with great companies. Not great salesmen or business men that screw customers over. That forum of theres reminds me of a nazi brainwash camp. Sickening.

Also do you know the new series of subs like your 13Ov2 is not over-rated because the designer of that sub would not allow it because of that build houses warranty? then since specs were posted by ed, designs were copied and subs are being built in china, they will not change the specs since everyone knows the specs..? Bah. I wish more of you people could know about what goes on behind the scenes in car audio. Allot of it cracks me up, allot of it is sad.

Also the T/s specs of the sub were "rounded off" to make it seem a little better than the real t/s of the sub? great sub, but funny crap haha. Guess ed likes to round it's numbers, who cares about the real detailes specs.

I also find it funny you are running avionix amps... A little birdy told me that is who is building ED's amps for them overseas... hmmm interesting.