To eD or not to eD,that is the question

ED is good at selling ED stuff to ED people and ED people like buying ED stuff. So ED (forum included) want's everyone to know that ED is ED and will always be ED as long as ED can continue to push ED's products on to ED's market which just happens to be ED's forum which just so happens to extinguish any other evidence that ED products are major crapola!!

Down with ED and all the ED was and ever will be.....the E'N'D //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

**Edit: This post contains subliminal messages propagated by Ben Milne***

 
What's that? Hide behind a group of fools that lock, delete, edit, and ban anyone that thinks outside the box? Well that or talks about a comparative driver, asks a generally thought-provoking question... Or heck...
Always easy to control when you have everyone in lockstep...

You say learning from mistakes... I see learning how to better manipulate and use others as a buffer... Learning would imply one is maturing... Get the vocabulary right.

You're apparently the type that's ok supporting scum if the product is proper (assuming it is anyway), there are others that are not... You'll need to learn to accept the fact that they are real, just like others have to accept the fact that you are. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
Ben owns ICIX. He can run it as he pleases. There are ample people on other forums who will point the finger directly at him no matter what the mods appear to do.

 
Oh... Also...
Learning = maturing... Maturing would be facing your past lies, problems, deceit, and fixing the problems you've left hidden and the people you've burned for a profit... That would show me learning... All I've seen is greed.

Why is it that you feel the need to intervene in these situations anymore, if you find them so comical? The only real reason I responded is because I saw you - chadillac - saying the same thing I've seen you saying for the past 2 years... So I say to myself... There's chad... I may as well pluck the strings some since he seems to want to... So I guess the moral of the story today is... He's screwed people over in the past, outright lied about products to bring himself to where he is today, but that doesn't matter because today he supposedly is better - more 'mature' or 'learned'... Even though he's made no attempts to address or remedy the things he's done in his past. Used me for several years... Then pitched me aside when the opportunity arose... A simple explanation and an apology would have buried a lot, somehow though that never came to be... Fast foward to where?

All the things that show maturity - advancement - growth... I've seen nothing of it.

Can't speak... Lost voice to pneumonia... I'll type though if that's ok. :p
I'm not going to argue about this; it's really not worth it. I have enough on my hands arguing with Eclipse fanatics and getting the results I want out of my systems. You may be right, and you may be wrong. I think the company is headed in the right direction; you disagree.

 
Ben owns ICIX. He can run it as he pleases. There are ample people on other forums who will point the finger directly at him no matter what the mods appear to do.
Are you one of those ignorant ISUX members?

I swear all the noobs on that forum kiss so much eDuh ass its not even funny. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif

 
This is a GENERAL car audio forum not run by a car audio company.

common sense man, dont go to a company's forum and bash their stuff, especially a largely internet based company, you cant be TOO surprised in the results of doing that. I'm not saying to go there for unbiased ED knowledge either, thats just as stupid.
Go over to the general forums on SSA or SIN (both have manufacturer supported forums) and post any comment you want about any company or product you please, and your posts will stay //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Yes, it is rather appauling the level of nazi-ism happening on ISUX.com, ran by Ben or not. The general discussion forums should be for just that...general discussion. Not "post here and hope the eD nazi's agree with you, otherwise your posts will be deleted and you will be banned."

I think that simple fact, the way Ben runs his forum, shows just how "mature" he is, and just how much "personal growth" he's experienced. Zero.

 
To add to this...

I have heard some of the the ED products...and almost all the rebags. They sound good, but I wont support anyone that is deceitful.

I was a member on ICIX for quite a while. When the new mags shipped I took some pictures of mine that I bought. In my excitement I posted the thread on ICIX, SiN, SSA, CA.com. I got positive responses on CA.com and SSA. I received a mix of responses on SiN. I was banned on ICIX...

You see, after 4 or 5 emails to the webmaster there (Ben) he concluded that I wasn't banned, but yet I couldn't post or PM. I created a new username...same thing...

This led me to believe that it was an IP ban. I emailed Ben again showing him the thread I posted and that I didn't work for the company, I was just excited. I received no response.

After all is said and done, I was getting the ICIX newsletters. I emailed Ben asking to be taken off. He replied with a link for me to click and do so...Still kept getting them. After a few more emails with no response I finally sent a very nasty email and finally got my name off his list.

At this point I do not care if Ben was involved in my unjustified banning. I have read many, many threads on this and will continue to not support this person, with any company he may be involved in.

 
The dude that does most of the banning and deleting IMO is the main forum administrator, Junky, he's really quick to drop the hammer, and I think he should be replaced with a better admin.

To the guy talking about bad installs with V1SE, well both me and my roomate are very experienced installers, and did everything right, yet we both have pieces of edead v1se coming off our doors. In texas summers, it can very easily reach the 150s inside of a car, and asphalt based deadener in general (not just ed's stuff) doesn't last very long in extended 140degree plus heat. Just to show you folks we're all not fanboys, and blindly following ben around with our brown noses, I agreee that the edead wasn't thoroughly tested in extreme heat, and should of been recalled or something.

All of their other current products kick arse though.

Again to the one talking about V1se and bad installs, dude stfu, the haters don't need any more ammo than they already have, your comments are going to end up in their signatures as an example of another clueless eD brown noser, contratulations lol.

 
Go over to the general forums on SSA or SIN (both have manufacturer supported forums) and post any comment you want about any company or product you please, and your posts will stay //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
I never said I condoned the practice, thats why I said you cant be "TOO" surprised. Some companies are more laid back than others, sure, but I think people complain too much about how it is run over there. Its much more of a company sponsored forum than SIN or SSA aswell.

 
Yes I am. I post hundreds and hundreds of I LOVE ED threads every day on ICIX. I'm well known on all these forums for using all eD systems. I won't use a single other product. I love them so much.
And a big old EDsticker on his rear window too....Chad is bad a$$, don't fuk with him. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 
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