time for some new subs ...13w6v2, Idmax, or RL-P

[kerryy 10+ year member]

So I am currently running a pair of 12" OZ Audio ME's in a sealed 1cu enclosure powered by a Zapco 6.0X (1200w). I need more trunk space so I want to switch to a single 12" or 13".

I am looking along the lines of a 13w6v2, idmax, and SS RL-P. How do those subs compare to each other? anything else you would suggest? I am looking for SQ (will be sealed), but still has some balls.

Click to read more...

 

[filtor1 10+ year member]

Why do you want to get rid of your OZ's?

All three are solid in my book. I have always been a fan of the JLW6's though.

 

[bose301s 5,000+ posts]

None of the above.

 

[kerryy 10+ year member]

Why do you want to get rid of your OZ's?
All three are solid in my book. I have always been a fan of the JLW6's though.

I don't want to, but the voice coils are D2 and I need a D4 if I want to run a single.

I also have a C2K 9.0x that can run it. Can a single OZ ME handle 1800 watts sealed?

 

[tez4life Premium Member]

Nothin you listed above would handle 1800w by themselves.

 

[denim 5,000+ posts]

The W6 is a great SQ driver, but $$, the IDMAX is also very nice, but not cheap. I like my RL-p but I am biased.

 

[filtor1 10+ year member]

I don't want to, but the voice coils are D2 and I need a D4 if I want to run a single.I also have a C2K 9.0x that can run it. Can a single OZ ME handle 1800 watts sealed?

Man that sucks. I have been faced with that decision before. As far as putting 1800watts to the ME, I honestly have no idea. I am faily sure you could sell them both and get somehting very nice for no out of pocket money though.

Another option is to sell the amp and get one that is more suitable for a single ME 12.

 

[kerryy 10+ year member]

I can't have both amps. $$$$$ I need to sell one.

6.0X 1200watts @ 2ohms

9.0X 1800-2200watts @ 4 ohms

I really like the idea of a single 12" idmax (sq+output), but its a bit pricy for sure. Would it pair up nicely to a 6.0x or would it handle 1800 watts from a 9.0x?

any other subs that can compare?

 

[req 5,000+ posts]

stop thinking that an amplifier has to put out its maximum power all the time.

there are knobs and buttons on the amplifiers that can turn down its output function. if you have a speaker that has a thermal capacity of 1200w, and an amplifier that has a max RMS of 1200w, you will be better off using an amplifier that has a max RMS of 1800w with the gain turned down.

think of it this way. for example, your car has a speedo that goes up to - lets say 150mph. you will prolly never go that fast, this is related to MAX power. lets say you got on it and went 120mph, and thats as fast as you would ever feel comfortable driving, that is your RMS power. now, if you drove around pedal to the floor all day every day because you feel comfortable at 120mph as a top speed, do you think the car would last long?

prolly not. so you will be better off with the amp that has more output power at a given impedance than one that is exactly matched to a speakers thermal rating. not to mention higher impedance (the 4 ohm amp) will have less current draw for your electrical system - or it should be less. if its bridged 2 channel class AB, maybe not. in my opinion - i would keep the OZs and find a better way to utilize them, because you will get more output out of a pair of the OZ's than a single one of all the speakers listed in a small sealed box (you are trying to save space, and the only way you will be louder with a single sub setup from the speakers listed is to have a larger ported box, which will take up as much room as the two subs in a sealed box.

so, you need to find an alternate speaker to use that will give you higher output in a smaller space.

the stereo integirty BM comes to mind. or their new mag when that is released. maybe that stupid jl audio tw-whatever shallow sub even though its way overpriced.

look around. your options are not limited to the idmax, w7, and tc-9 based drivers. these are all large and will not be louder than two OZ me's - in my book (i have had two 12" me DVC4's) they ME is louder than the IDQ and a bit less than the IDMAX, so a pair of them will defiantly be louder.

 

[kerryy 10+ year member]

stop thinking that an amplifier has to put out its maximum power all the time.
there are knobs and buttons on the amplifiers that can turn down its output function. if you have a speaker that has a thermal capacity of 1200w, and an amplifier that has a max RMS of 1200w, you will be better off using an amplifier that has a max RMS of 1800w with the gain turned down.

think of it this way. for example, your car has a speedo that goes up to - lets say 150mph. you will prolly never go that fast, this is related to MAX power. lets say you got on it and went 120mph, and thats as fast as you would ever feel comfortable driving, that is your RMS power. now, if you drove around pedal to the floor all day every day because you feel comfortable at 120mph as a top speed, do you think the car would last long?

prolly not. so you will be better off with the amp that has more output power at a given impedance than one that is exactly matched to a speakers thermal rating. not to mention higher impedance (the 4 ohm amp) will have less current draw for your electrical system - or it should be less. if its bridged 2 channel class AB, maybe not. in my opinion - i would keep the OZs and find a better way to utilize them, because you will get more output out of a pair of the OZ's than a single one of all the speakers listed in a small sealed box (you are trying to save space, and the only way you will be louder with a single sub setup from the speakers listed is to have a larger ported box, which will take up as much room as the two subs in a sealed box.

so, you need to find an alternate speaker to use that will give you higher output in a smaller space.

the stereo integirty BM comes to mind. or their new mag when that is released. maybe that stupid jl audio tw-whatever shallow sub even though its way overpriced.

look around. your options are not limited to the idmax, w7, and tc-9 based drivers. these are all large and will not be louder than two OZ me's - in my book (i have had two 12" me DVC4's) they ME is louder than the IDQ and a bit less than the IDMAX, so a pair of them will defiantly be louder.

your input is very appreciated

this helped me clarify my options

 

[Hintzyboy 5,000+ posts]

I know you are looking for a single woofer to save trunk space, but I have 3 10" ID OEMs that would work great in about 2 cubes sealed for all 3.

If you're interested, PM me

 

[kerryy 10+ year member]

I know you are looking for a single woofer to save trunk space, but I have 3 10" ID OEMs that would work great in about 2 cubes sealed for all 3.
If you're interested, PM me

thanks, but I think I will be waiting for a new SI Mag

...thanks req for the heads up!