Time for a new setup

[Krave]

Yea I sold my baby today //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

Didn't see this yesterday, but I too, was in a slump after getting rid of my Ram SRT-10 for a good solid half year.....hell, I am still not over getting rid of it and that was in 2012.

 

[adulbrich 5,000+ posts]

Didn't see this yesterday, but I too, was in a slump after getting rid of my Ram SRT-10 for a good solid half year.....hell, I am still not over getting rid of it and that was in 2012.

Well.. It was still a Dodge.

Surprised you weren't instantly happier with your Chevy. Maybe you need to go to the doctor or something //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

 

[Krave]

Well.. It was still a Dodge.
Surprised you weren't instantly happier with your Chevy. Maybe you need to go to the doctor or something //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

lol, I went from the Dodge to a GTI that is why I was as sad as I was. I am happy with the GMC.

 

[adulbrich 5,000+ posts]

lol, I went from the Dodge to a GTI that is why I was as sad as I was. I am happy with the GMC.

Glad you like it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

I'm what some people consider a General Motors Nuthugger

 

[ChaseinBass]

I was thinking about adding my stock alt back on and putting a cheap lead-acid battery back in the stock location. Then I can run two separate circuits. One for my stock electrical devices & 4 channel amp, and another for my battery bank and sub amp.
A while back, I was thinking about trying a higher voltage setup like that.

I think the extra 300 amp alt would be overkill (even for electrical), but you could try it with the two alts first and then decide if you need to spend the extra money.

I'm not saying that there is ever too much electrical, but that's just what I would do personally

Way overkill on electrical. Ill be running my 10k on 2 Juicebox BC G31s and a G34 up front. With my DC 270XP alternator.

Thinking about the Taramps 1200x4 as well.

Well i am thinking I might be a little over kill adding a 300 amp alts so I may go to a 250 plus my 270 for stereo and add 165 amp for my truck electrical so that would give me 520 amps to stereo and could even use prob 100 amps of truck alt too if i needed too? What are your thoughts guys ? And I have three JB black cherries gp31s and have room for one more if i need it

 

[adulbrich 5,000+ posts]

Well i am thinking I might be a little over kill adding a 300 amp alts so I may go to a 250 plus my 270 for stereo and add 165 amp for my truck electrical so that would give me 520 amps to stereo and could even use prob 100 amps of truck alt too if i needed too? What are your thoughts guys ? And I have three JB black cherries gp31s and have room for one more if i need it

I'd just put the stock alt on your bracket for now and see how big your second HO alt needs to be.

 

[ChaseinBass]

I was thinking about adding my stock alt back on and putting a cheap lead-acid battery back in the stock location. Then I can run two separate circuits. One for my stock electrical devices & 4 channel amp, and another for my battery bank and sub amp.
A while back, I was thinking about trying a higher voltage setup like that.

I think the extra 300 amp alt would be overkill (even for electrical), but you could try it with the two alts first and then decide if you need to spend the extra money.

I'm not saying that there is ever too much electrical, but that's just what I would do personally

Way overkill on electrical. Ill be running my 10k on 2 Juicebox BC G31s and a G34 up front. With my DC 270XP alternator.

Thinking about the Taramps 1200x4 as well.

I'd just put the stock alt on your bracket for now and see how big your second HO alt needs to be.

I know what you mean but I am trying to get electrical done before I do all the rest of the rebuild and I am thinking the max amperage on music for the taramps 10k says 615 amps this would be that much in just alts and maybe a little overkill and I know the batterys are where the power is supplied but wouldnt it just recover batterys that much quicker ? I may be hung up on the whole current thing - korean amps ? I think there has to be an easy way to calculate this ? Any help is appreciated. Thanks

 

[ChaseinBass]

I also am not for sure on the taramps 10k yet either that or Crossfire 8k so I may or may not need some extra.?

 

[adulbrich 5,000+ posts]

Crossfire would have more output than the Taramps 10k if you wired it lower. If you plan to wire each at 1 ohm nominal, the Taramps would be the better option.

There is no formula that is 100% for electrical requirements. Many people try to make a rule of thumb, but it depends on a lot of things.

1. How much current your vehicle's electrical system requires

2. Your listening habits

3. What your rise ends up being. If you have a bunch of rise, your amplifier will see a higher impedance and be efficient, but not put out as much power. Therefore, it would not need as much electrical. Vice-versa if you don't have much rise. Your amplifier will be less efficient and put out more power, so you'd need more electrical. However, rise isn't always a bad thing. It equates to efficiency in some cases.

4. I know there are more things that would affect what you need for electrical, but I can't think of them off the top of my head right now.

Overall, the Taramps would need less electrical because it is a full-bridge (Brazilian) amplifier. You already know this though

 

[ChaseinBass]

Crossfire would have more output than the Taramps 10k if you wired it lower. If you plan to wire each at 1 ohm nominal, the Taramps would be the better option.
There is no formula that is 100% for electrical requirements. Many people try to make a rule of thumb, but it depends on a lot of things.

1. How much current your vehicle's electrical system requires

2. Your listening habits

3. What your rise ends up being. If you have a bunch of rise, your amplifier will see a higher impedance and be efficient, but not put out as much power. Therefore, it would not need as much electrical. Vice-versa if you don't have much rise. Your amplifier will be less efficient and put out more power, so you'd need more electrical. However, rise isn't always a bad thing. It equates to efficiency in some cases.

4. I know there are more things that would affect what you need for electrical, but I can't think of them off the top of my head right now.

Overall, the Taramps would need less electrical because it is a full-bridge (Brazilian) amplifier. You already know this though

I am wiring at 2 ohms and am waiting on the taramps 10k 2 ohm model -due out now. I am doing some reading on alt and battery set ups but most are old posts and dealing with lower curent draws not sure it makes any differnce cuz math is math right ? So is it safe to say 620 amps should be more than enough for this amp and three or four batterys sould be a good starting point ? Will this be enough for the crossfire as well ? with the cross fire I would prob wire to .5

 

[adulbrich 5,000+ posts]

I am wiring at 2 ohms and am waiting on the taramps 10k 2 ohm model -due out now. I am doing some reading on alt and battery set ups but most are old posts and dealing with lower curent draws not sure it makes any differnce cuz math is math right ? So is it safe to say 620 amps should be more than enough for this amp and three or four batterys sould be a good starting point ? Will this be enough for the crossfire as well ? with the cross fire I would prob wire to .5

620 should be way more than enough, but I cannot 100% guarantee that.

Personally, the largest amp I've run was my M4a. 320 amp alt, 400ah battery bank (five group 49's). Usually 14's driving, 13's at idle. Wired to one ohm nominal.

 

[ChaseinBass]

620 should be more than enough, but I cannot 100% guarantee that.
Personally, the largest amp I've run was my M4a. 320 amp alt, 400ah battery bank (five group 49's). Usually 14's driving, 13's at idle. Wired to one ohm nominal.

Ya I know what you mean, but that helps to get started rebuilding. The 7k ct sounds was running on my singer 270 single alt also powering truck and truck battery with four 110 ah batts for stereo stayed around 13.8 to 14.2 driving but would drop a little lower at idle but it never went into the 12 s ever ? So would I be right in assuming I was giving it sufficient power ? What I am getting at is voltage doesnt mean curent right ? Or if current wasnt sufficient would I have seen lower voltage ? I have voltmeter on the amps input.

 

[adulbrich 5,000+ posts]

Ya I know what you mean, but that helps to get started rebuilding. The 7k ct sounds was running on my singer 270 single alt also powering truck and truck battery with four 110 ah batts for stereo stayed around 13.8 to 14.2 driving but would drop a little lower at idle but it never went into the 12 s ever ? So would I be right in assuming I was giving it sufficient power ? What I am getting at is voltage doesnt mean curent right ? Or if current wasnt sufficient would I have seen lower voltage ? I have voltmeter on the amps input.

"Sufficient power" is kind of subjective. If your amp is stable down to 10v, that would be "ok" to dip to at idle, but I wouldn't want to do that. Wouldn't be fantastic on the amp to run at that voltage all the time. Above 12's should be fine for daily listening. If it gets hot and you're not clipping, but voltage drop is bad, then you need more electrical upgrades.

Really can't give solid answers to every question on the electrical topic. "Overkill" is always best, because you can't damage the amp unless your system voltage is higher than the highest voltage your amp was meant to run on.