THE OFFICAL 911 was a inside job thread

[JLa Obsessed 10+ year member]

Yeah, and you are the same guy who sees a plane crash into a tower and thinks that he sees George Bush burning down a building. Your ability to perceive is rather fvcked.

that comeback was horrible, but im betting you also think a plane hit the pentagon dont you? Ever seen survailence tapes from that...?

 

[mjbailey21 10+ year member]

ok ok i know its been done before to death but without any really good info other than bits and pieces that is .

SO ...... here is a thread for you non believers !!!! answers theese questions to really show you know more about 911 facts than the anti believers !!!

1) Why didn't NORAD fulfil its standard operating procedure and intercept the planes? Were NORAD intentionally confused by the wargames taking place on the morning of 9/11 or were they ordered to stand down?

Flight 77 was known by NORAD to have been hijacked by 8:50am. Yet it is a full 48 minutes until any fighters are scrambled, as two leave Langley AFB just two minutes before Flight 77 hits the Pentagon at 9:40am.

2) What is the meaning behind the following quote attributed to Dick Cheney which came to light during the 9/11 Commission hearings. The passage is taken from testimony given by Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta.

During the time that the airplane was coming in to the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President, "The plane is 50 miles out." "The plane is 30 miles out." And when it got down to "the plane is 10 miles out," the young man also said to the Vice President, "Do the orders still stand?" And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said, "Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?"

As the plane was not shot down are we to take it that the orders were to let the plane find its target?

3) What was the cause of the collapse of WTC Building 7? The building wasn't hit by a plane and yet it collapsed in the same manner as the twin towers. Why hasn't Larry Silverstein offered a public explanation as to the meaning behind his comments on a September 2002 PBC documentary, America Rebuilds, where he admits the decision was made to "pull" the building. Pulling a building is the industry term for controlled demolition. The official FEMA report listed fire damage as the reason for the building's collapse, even though photos taken before the collapse indicate minimal fires.

How can the collapse of the building and also the twin towers be justified in light of numerous examples of high story buildings which burned for hours and even days without collapsing, such as the recent Windsor Building fire in Madrid?

4) How did Rudolph Giuliani know that the south tower was about to collapse? Giuliani told ABC's Peter Jennings, "We were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was gonna collapse."

The World Trade Center was the first steel building to collapse from fire damage in history.

Who told Giuliani the building was going to collapse and how did they know?

5) In the days following September 11th, the FBI released a list of the 19 hijackers.

At least four of these hijackers are still alive. Saudi Arabian pilot Waleed Al Shehri ) was one of five men that the FBI said had deliberately crashed American Airlines flight 11 into the World Trade Centre on 11 September.

He told journalists there that he had nothing to do with the attacks on New York and Washington, and had been in Morocco when they happened. He has contacted both the Saudi and American authorities, according to Saudi press reports.

Other so called '******* hijackers' who have come forward to protest their innocence (being alive is a good enough alibi) are Abdulaziz Al Omari , Saeed Alghamdi and Khalid Al Midhar.

How can we take claims of paper passports that miraculously escaped the impact of the plane and the gigantic fireballs and fluttered mostly unscathed down to the ground seriously? At least a third of the victims were never identified and yet a paper passport survives. Was this an attempt to frame the very individuals the FBI would later blame for the attack?

6) Who told a number of public officials not to fly into New York on the morning of 9/11 and why didn't the people on the targeted planes get the same warnings?

Mayor of San Francisco Willie Brown was set to fly into New York on the morning of September 11. However, he got a call from what he described as his 'airport security' late September 10th advising against flying due to a security threat.

Newsweek twice reported that top Pentagon officials had got a warning of the impending attack on September 10th, and cancelled their flights for the next day. This confirms that these officials knew both the locations of the imminent attack and the method of using jetliners as bombs.

7) From July 4th-14th 2001, Osama bin Laden was being treated for kidney infection at the American Hospital, Dubai, United Arab Emirates. There, on multiple occasions, he met with CIA station Chief Larry Mitchell. Bin Laden gave Mitchell 'precise information' regarding 'an imminent attack' on the US. Bin Laden also met with numerous members of his family, who left the US by

chartered flights after September 11th with the full blessings of the US government.

A 2000 Clinton presidential executive order was still in effect and mandated that bin Laden should have been killed on the spot. Bin Laden was allowed to leave of his own free will.

8) A record number of 'put' options, speculation that the stock of a company will fall, were placed on American and United Airlines in the days preceding September 11th. This despite a September 10th Reuters report stating 'airline stocks set to fly.'

9) Between September 6 and 7, the Chicago Board Options Exchange saw purchases of 4,744 put options on United Airlines, but only 396 call options. On September 10, 4,516 put options on American Airlines were bought on the Chicago exchange, compared to only 748 calls.

The investigation as to which criminals benefited from advance knowledge of the terrorist attack led straight to Alex Brown/Deutsche Bank - chaired up until 1997 by executive director of the CIA, Buzzy Krongard.

Why wasn't Krongard taken in for questioning by the FBI and who else was involved in this insider trading?

10) Pakistan ISI Director General Mahmud Ahmad instructed Ahmad Umar Sheikh to hotwire $100,000 to the 9/11 lead hijacker, Mohammad Atta.

On September 11th, Ahmad was a guest of former clandestine CIA officer and CFR member Rep. Porter Goss and Skull and Bones/CFR member Senator Bob Graham. Since September 4th, he had met with top brass at the CIA, the Pentagon and the White House, including Colin Powell, Richard Armitage, Joseph Biden and George Tenet.

Condoleezza Rice lied in a May 16th 2002 press conference when she claimed ignorance of Ahmad's visit and the $100,000 transfer. Ahmad had

already resigned from the ISI and the FBI had confirmed the circumstances behind this. Rice stated "I have not seen that report, and he was certainly not meeting with me."

What was the money man behind the terrorists doing in the halls of the US government before, during and after 9/11?

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[WhoSayWho? 5,000+ posts]

Are you whackos including me in the 100 million believers since I have visited this thread?

 

[bumpweLL.nYc 10+ year member]

Almost as scientific as visiting the Pentagon and seeing for yourself.

Im 10 minutes away from the Trade Center. I see it. Whats your point?

Nobody believed Kennedy would sent hundreds into the Bay of Pigs slaughter for political gain. Now they know.

Noone believes Bush would do this? The people who commit the crime are the ones who benefit. He is the one of a handful BENEFITTING from this. He runs the Carlysle Group which made millions on top of millions. Did Cheney benefit? Umm Halliburton? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif Did Silverstein benefit? Oh yeah. Did Saddam or Osama or Al Qaeda benefit? Theyre all dead or pretty close. nuff said.

 

[WhoSayWho? 5,000+ posts]

that comeback was horrible, but im betting you also think a plane hit the pentagon dont you? Ever seen survailence tapes from that...?

I could not possibly care less what you think of my "comeback." Your judgment is for shit.

Of course it was a plane that hit the Pentagon. No I have not seen surveillance tapes -- nor do I even know if they exist. I am not obsessed with figuring out this "puzzle."

I find you conspiracy theorists mildly amusing at the moment. Other than that, anything that you have to say is of absolutely no value to me.

 

[WhoSayWho? 5,000+ posts]

Im 10 minutes away from the Trade Center. I see it. Whats your point?
Nobody believed Kennedy would sent hundreds into the Bay of Pigs slaughter for political gain. Now they know.

Noone believes Bush would do this? The people who commit the crime are the ones who benefit. He is the one of a handful BENEFITTING from this. He runs the Carlysle Group which made millions on top of millions. Did Cheney benefit? Umm Halliburton? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif Did Silverstein benefit? Oh yeah. Did Saddam or Osama or Al Qaeda benefit? Theyre all dead or pretty close. nuff said.

I am in Hempstead State Park.

 

[bumpweLL.nYc 10+ year member]

HAhahaha youre such a tool. Bush loves you.

Lemme guess, there really was a voting miscount in Florida hahahaha what a coincidence my brother just happens to be the governor!

what a bunch of fools.

prove me wrong

 

[bumpweLL.nYc 10+ year member]

do yourself a favor and research psyops/blackops, gov't term for psychological operations.. manipulation through media and the sort. Then tell me why more people care about the latest fashion trends than whats going on in this world.

 

[crunktimes.com 5,000+ posts]

All that this country has done for you and your freedoms and you all turn your back on it. May gods wrath have mercy on you when your day of judgment comes.

You all should be ashamed of yourselves, consider yourself lucky you were not born in Iraq where we are doing out best to free these people as if you had your way Saddam would still be in power and in Iraq turning your back on and betraying our country carries the DEATH PENALTY!

I will pray for your sad souls and that mercy should be had on your families.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

HAhahaha youre such a tool. Bush loves you.
Lemme guess, there really was a voting miscount in Florida hahahaha what a coincidence my brother just happens to be the governor!

what a bunch of fools.

prove me wrong

The president is my boss. I hope he loves me.

 

[WhoSayWho? 5,000+ posts]

Okay, I will take the bait. What exactly is your theory of what happened on 9/11?

I hear you guys questioning such things as how the buildings fell the way that they did and I see you questioning what you think appears in pictures of a building that is burning/falling. But I have to be honest, those types of esoteric arguments are not going to get you very far in light of the conclusion you are asking the general public to make.

So please, spell out your conspiracy theory in a coherent manner. Why don't you start by giving us an overview of who you believe was involved in the conspiracy and how it was carried out.

 

[MikeofTulsa Moderator]

Okay, I will take the bait. What exactly is your theory of what happened on 9/11?
I hear you guys questioning such things as how the buildings fell the way that they did and I see you questioning what you think appears in pictures of a building that is burning/falling. But I have to be honest, those types of esoteric arguments are not going to get you very far in light of the conclusion you are asking the general public to make.

So please, spell out your conspiracy theory in a coherent manner. Why don't you start by giving us an overview of who you believe was involved in the conspiracy and how it was carried out.

dont you know they think bush carried a bomb in himself and the planes were imaginary. he also shot a rocket at the pentagon.

 

[NYR36 10+ year member]

All that this country has done for you and your freedoms and you all turn your back on it. May gods wrath have mercy on you when your day of judgment comes.
You all should be ashamed of yourselves, consider yourself lucky you were not born in Iraq where we are doing out best to free these people as if you had your way Saddam would still be in power and in Iraq turning your back on and betraying our country carries the DEATH PENALTY!

I will pray for your sad souls and that mercy should be had on your families.

I don't think you can be anymore brainwashed. I will pray for you tonight.

 

[Dozy_production 10+ year member]

I don't think you can be anymore brainwashed. I will pray for you tonight.

All dat dis here country has done fo' ya an' yo' freedoms an' ya all turn yo' back on it. May gods wrath gots mercy on ya when yo' day o' judgment comes.

You all should be ashamed o' yourselves, consider yourself lucky ya wuz not born in Iraq where we's iz doin' out bomb ta free deez peeps as if ya had yo' way Saddam would still be in power an' in Iraq turning yo' back on an' betraying our country carries da DEATH PENALTY!

I will pray fo' yo' sad souls an' dat mercy should be had on yo' families. an don't make me pull mah gat!

its a little less depressing this way.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

I don't think you can be anymore brainwashed. I will pray for you tonight.

If you miss the point this badly when paying darts, a drunk trucker would beat the shit of you for hitting him in the leg.