THE OFFICAL 911 was a inside job thread

[fancynapkin 10+ year member]

And in case you deliberatly ignored the link, here's the listed of people who disagree with you:

"Air Crash Analysis

Cleveland Center regional air traffic control

Bill Crowley special agent, FBI

Ron Dokell president, Demolition Consultants

Richard Gazarik staff writer, Pittsburgh Tribune-Review

Yates Gladwell pilot, VF Corp.

Michael K. Hynes, Ed.D.,

ATP, CFI, A&P/IA president, Hynes Aviation Services; expert, aviation crashes

Ed Jacoby Jr. director,

New York State Emergency Management Office (Ret.); chairman, New York State Disaster Preparedness Commission (Ret.)

Johnstown-Cambria County Airport Authority

Cindi Lash staff writer, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Matthew McCormick manager, survival factors division, National Transportation Safety Board (Ret.)

Wallace Miller coroner, Somerset County, PA

Robert Nagan meteorological technician, Climate Services Branch, National Climatic Data Center

Dave Newell director, aviation and travel, VF Corp.

James O’Toole politics editor, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Pennsylvania State Police Public Information Office

Jeff Pillets senior writer,

The Record, Hackensack, NJ

Jeff Rienbold director, Flight 93 National Memorial, National Park Service

Dennis Roddy staff writer, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Master Sgt. David Somdahl public affairs officer,

119th Wing, North Dakota

Air National Guard

Mark Stahl photographer; eyewitness, United Airlines Flight 93 crash scene

Air Defense

Lt. Col. Skip Aldous (Ret.) squadron commander,

U.S. Air Force

Tech. Sgt. Laura Bosco public affairs officer,

Tyndall Air Force Base

Boston Center regional air traffic control

Laura Brown spokeswoman,

Federal Aviation Administration

Todd Curtis, Ph.D. founder, Airsafe.com; president, Airsafe.com Foundation

Keith Halloway public affairs officer, National Transportation Safety Board

Ted Lopatkiewicz director, public affairs, National Transportation Safety Board

Maj. Douglas Martin public affairs officer,

North American Aerospace Defense Command

Lt. Herbert McConnell public affairs officer,

Andrews AFB

Michael Perini public affairs officer, North American Aerospace Defense Command

John Pike director, GlobalSecurity.org

Hank Price spokesman, Federal

Aviation Administration

Warren Robak RAND Corp.

Bill Shumann spokesman,

Federal Aviation Administration

Louis Walsh public affairs officer, Eglin AFB

Chris Yates aviation security editor, analyst, Jane’s Transport

Aviation

Fred E.C. Culick, Ph.D., S.B., S.M. professor of aeronautics, California Institute of Technology

Robert Everdeen public affairs, Northrop Grumman

Clint Oster professor of public and environmental affairs, Indiana University; aviation safety expert

Capt. Bill Scott (Ret. USAF) Rocky Mountain bureau chief, Aviation Week

Bill Uher News Media Office, NASA Langley Research Center

Col. Ed Walby (Ret. USAF)

director, business development, HALE Systems Enterprise, Unmanned Systems, Northrop Grumman

Image Analysis

William F. Baker member, FEMA Probe Team; partner, Skidmore, Owings, Merrill

W. Gene Corley, Ph.D., P.E., S.E. senior vice president, CTL Group; director,

FEMA Probe Team

Bill Daly senior vice president, Control Risks Group

Steve Douglass image analysis consultant, Aviation Week

Thomas R. Edwards, Ph.D. founder, TREC; video forensics expert.

Ronald Greeley, Ph.D. professor of geology, Arizona State University

Rob Howard freelance photographer; WTC eyewitness

Robert L. Parker, Ph.D. professor of geophysics,

University of California, San Diego

Structural Engineering / Building Collapse

Farid Alfawakhiri, Ph.D. senior engineer, American Institute of Steel Construction

David Biggs, P.E. structural engineer, Ryan-Biggs Associates; member, ASCE team for FEMA report

Robert Clarke structural engineer, Controlled Demolitions Group Ltd.

Glenn Corbett technical editor, Fire Engineering; member, NIST advisory committee

Vincent Dunn deputy fire chief (Ret.), FDNY; author, The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety

John Fisher, Ph.D. professor of civil engineering, Lehigh University; professor emeritus, Center for Advanced Technology; member, FEMA Probe Team

Ken Hays executive vice president, Masonry Arts

Christoph Hoffmann, Ph.D. professor of computer science, Purdue University; project director, September 11 Pentagon Attack Simulations Using LS-Dyna, Purdue University

Allyn E. Kilsheimer, P.E.

CEO, KCE Structural Engineers PC; chief structural engineer, Phoenix project; expert in blast recovery, concrete structures, emergency response

Won-Young Kim, Ph.D. seismologist, Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory, Columbia University

William Koplitz photo desk manager, FEMA

John Labriola freelance photographer, WTC survivor

Arthur Lerner-Lam, Ph.D. seismologist; director,

Earth Institute, Center for Hazards and Risk Research, Columbia University

James Quintiere, Ph.D. professor of engineering, University of Maryland member, NIST advisory committee

Steve Riskus freelance photographer; eyewitness, Pentagon crash

Van Romero, Ph.D. vice president, New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology

Christine Shaffer spokesperson, Viracon

Mete Sozen, Ph.D., S.E. Kettelhut Distinguished Professor of Structural Engineering, Purdue University; member, Pentagon Building Performance Report; project conception, September 11 Pentagon Attack Simulations Using LS-Dyna, Purdue University

Shyam Sunder, Sc.D.

acting deputy director, lead investigator, Building and Fire Research Laboratory, National Institute of Standards and Technology

Mary Tobin science writer, media relations, Earth Institute, Columbia University

Forman Williams, Ph.D. professor of engineering, physics, combustion, University of California,

San Diego; member, advisory committee, National Institute of Standards and Technology"

have a nice day

 

[btmorris972 10+ year member]

I for one refuse to rely on streaming video clips as my source of evidence. If a few mpegs is all it takes for you to blame the government with the death of 3000 Americans, you have problems.
Maybe you should talk to popular mechanics: http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html and tell them that their engineers don't know what they're talking about.

What about pyroclastic flow? Can you explain the the existance of Neutrinos in the atom?

And yes I can explain the "pyroclastic flow" - there was none, it was a dust cloud shot up when the towers fell. Also, pyroclastic flow has never occured with demolitions, so you can throw that conspiracy out the window.

The pm article has already been debunked

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=682

And it was a pyroclastic flow

Oh and that streaming video of wtc7 freefalling Is the same one they played in the afternoon of 911.

and just to let you know wtc7 fell to the ground in 6.5 seconds.

Its all good man you can believe whatever you want

 

[Lil Poot 5,000+ posts]

but.. but... the news said....

 

[fancynapkin 10+ year member]

The pm article has already been debunked
http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=682

And it was a pyroclastic flow

Oh and that streaming video of wtc7 freefalling Is the same one they played in the afternoon of 911.

and just to let you know wtc7 fell to the ground in 6.5 seconds.

Its all good man you can believe whatever you want

Lovely, you've outsourced your argument to another forum, most likely filled with equally misinformed mouth breathers. Whenever they get their ***** handed to them via the extensive popular mechanics article, their only defense is MORE conspiracy crap.

Name some ways in which the extensive PM article was "debunked" and how ALL the qualified personal I listed are wrong.

It was pyroclastic flow eh? hey, while your pulling stuff out of your ***, can I get a horse?

Even if it was pyroclastic flow, it doesnt mean ANYTHING.

But, your completely oblivious to facts, so enjoy your little video clips.

 

[btmorris972 10+ year member]

http://www.cerebellum.tv/fvideo/BYU.php

 

[fancynapkin 10+ year member]

http://www.cerebellum.tv/fvideo/BYU.php

Oh joy another little video clip. yet you still ignore the MASSIVE debunking of all your silly conspiracies by a number of people who can actually talk on the subject

"Steven Earl Jones is a professor of physics at Brigham Young University who conducts research in nuclear fusion and solar energy. " yeah, that really qualifies him //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif . Guess what? My father has his Phd in physics and is a prof. at michigan, does his opinion count?

oh and try this one on for size:

"Some of Jones' collegues disagree with his beliefs regarding the collapse of the towers. The BYU physics department has issued a statement: "The university is aware that Professor Steven Jones's hypotheses and interpretations of evidence regarding the collapse of World Trade Center buildings are being questioned by a number of scholars and practitioners, including many of BYU's own faculty members. Professor Jones's department and college administrators are not convinced that his analyses and hypotheses have been submitted to relevant scientific venues that would ensure rigorous technical peer review." The Fulton College of Engineering and Technology department has also added, "The structural engineering faculty in the Fulton College of Engineering and Technology do not support the hypotheses of Professor Jones." "

Time to get your head out of your *** and take a walk outside.

 

[fancynapkin 10+ year member]

wow this thread really helped my ego out, thanks guys!

 

[snb778 5,000+ posts]

thats not scary, whats scary is...that they tell us a plane crashed into the pentagon and they confiscate all security camera footage that was viewing the incident instantly

...that they tell us building 7 collapsed due to fire when the owner himself said on PBS that it was "pulled" meaning demolished.

...that they tell us that the towers collapsed due to fire when many witnesses say there were explosions.

...that they were having war games involving the exact event, planes crashing into WTC on that morning.

...that no jets were deployed to the planes when they started going off course.

conspiracy theories maybe but some of the stuff like building 7 is just a flat out lie, why would they lie about that if they weren't hiding something?

ohhhh God here we go again....

First off that thing with Wordpad....didnt do anything for me.

BUT, GrayMatter4tw, show me a link where it has a direct quote, on the owner of building 7 saying the building was demolished.....because it probably doesnt exist.

2, people claiming they heard explosions when the towers were falling.....has anyone...ANYONE, ever heard a 1-2" thick piece of SOLID STEEL snapping instantly....think about that....more less a whole building of them snapping instantly....its going to go BANG BANG SNAP BINGGGG...

3, I heard all the planes were on a training mission by alaska or something, and there were only like 12 in the whole country at the time

I DO LIKE HOW YOU SAID CONSPIRACY THOUGH, and you dont believe all this.

and again...I have to bring up the pentagon....if it was a "JET" or a "MISSLE" what happened to all the bodies on "that plane"

 

[fancynapkin 10+ year member]

ohhhh God here we go again....
First off that thing with Wordpad....didnt do anything for me.

BUT, GrayMatter4tw, show me a link where it has a direct quote, on the owner of building 7 saying the building was demolished.....because it probably doesnt exist.

2, people claiming they heard explosions when the towers were falling.....has anyone...ANYONE, ever heard a 1-2" thick piece of SOLID STEEL snapping instantly....think about that....more less a whole building of them snapping instantly....its going to go BANG BANG SNAP BINGGGG...

3, I heard all the planes were on a training mission by alaska or something, and there were only like 12 in the whole country at the time

I DO LIKE HOW YOU SAID CONSPIRACY THOUGH, and you dont believe all this.

and again...I have to bring up the pentagon....if it was a "JET" or a "MISSLE" what happened to all the bodies on "that plane"

Sometimes I think it'd be more efficient to just call them morons then to waste time debating their little propaganda videos on google. Nobody takes any of these crazies seriously anyways.

 

[snb778 5,000+ posts]

where is crownamps, hahahah

 

[jer_stud56 10+ year member]

I've heard both ways. Personally, now I don't need fighting over this, but I think it was set up. That's all I'm gonna say.

 

[wilzyx 5,000+ posts]

there is evidence supporting both sides, and with how ****ed up and greedy the government is nowadays, i wouldnt doubt that they planned this out.

 

[fancynapkin 10+ year member]

there is evidence supporting both sides, and with how ****ed up and greedy the government is nowadays, i wouldnt doubt that they planned this out.

Anyone who thinks a few uniformed opinions by unqualified nutjobs counts as "evidence" needs to put down the bong, and take off the tin foil hat.

 

[Lil Poot 5,000+ posts]

obviously you haven't watched any of these "wild conspiracy theory" videos napkin.

 

[btmorris972 10+ year member]

Its all good guys. Believe whatever you want.

Ive been researching 911 for over 5 months now. I have found more evidence that suggest 911 was an inside job than evidence that suggests terrorist that "hate our freedom" pulled this off.

If anyone really wants to learn more or debate this i suggest checking out the loose change forums.

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?act=idx

And for any of you 911 newbies out there you should def check out loose change second edition.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7218920724339766288&q=loose+change