THE OFFICAL 911 was a inside job thread

[DIPayton 10+ year member]

The thing I hate about these conspriacy theory threads is that they expect you to do your own research.... and if you go to EVERY link they provide and watch all of the videos and bring up a questions you get replies like "you haven't done enough research" or "you're stupid and missing the facts" and shit like that... Even though a lot of the sites that are provided are not credible sites IMO...

And you say you should research and draw your own conclusion, but I know when I commented that I believe some of the stuff may have been set up while I still believe it was a terrorist thing, I get a "you're a dumb ***" comment back... The people believing it was a conspiracy only want you to think one way or they call you a dumb ***... or they criticize what you think with stupid come backs... Is this some kind of cult? you're telling me to draw my own conclusions, and after doing so, you tell me I am wrong and have to think like you...

The more of these threads that pop up, the more I doubt the conspiracy theory now... I think it's all government/George Bush haters with sticks up their *****.

 

[snb778 5,000+ posts]

......uhm....
Originally Posted by snb778

actually, I used to be like the rest of the people in this thread right now...I used to believe it was staged because of these videos..but unlike everyone else in here.. I DID DO MY RESEARCH!!! Why would allll of Afghanistan participate in this...whats in it for them...a ton of dead motherf-ers and a country leader hiding out in a friggin sandbox.????? come on. You gotta think about how this event effected the rest of the world.

How does our gov. stage this, and yet bring the countries across seas into it

innocent civilians suffered from it didnt they. People not part of Al Qaida didnt they.....dude to this point you havent told me 1 of your theories how Afghanistan got involved in this whole thing anyways..you have yet to mention it.

Now on the other hand..I believe something like the JFK assasination was in someway setup...but that is something as I was saying earlier is MUCH easier to setup....1 person goes to another and say "ill pay you this much...get it done"...and its done...2 people know. Thats it.

 

[NJack2AF 10+ year member]

this skyscraper in madrid burned for more than 10 hours.
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/167/spainfire68uh.jpg

now wtc7 was on fire but nowhere near as bad as the skyscraper in madrid.

guess what the building in madrid didnt collapse, Let alone at freefall speed.

Why would the gov lie to us about wtc7 collapse??

I would actually like a comparison of the differences between the structures and what %'s of what they were built of and how they were built. The whole madrid building comparison still seems stupid to me... Just because it was on fire it still wasn't hit by a MASSIVE airliner...

 

[btmorris972 10+ year member]

The thing I hate about these conspriacy theory threads is that they expect you to do your own research.... and if you go to EVERY link they provide and watch all of the videos and bring up a questions you get replies like "you haven't done enough research" or "you're stupid and missing the facts" and shit like that... Even though a lot of the sites that are provided are not credible sites IMO...
And you say you should research and draw your own conclusion, but I know when I commented that I believe some of the stuff may have been set up while I still believe it was a terrorist thing, I get a "you're a dumb ***" comment back... The people believing it was a conspiracy only want you to think one way or they call you a dumb ***... or they criticize what you think with stupid come backs... Is this some kind of cult? you're telling me to draw my own conclusions, and after doing so, you tell me I am wrong and have to think like you...

The more of these threads that pop up, the more I doubt the conspiracy theory now... I think it's all government/George Bush haters with sticks up their *****.

Ill make this a simple as possible for you.

Do you think wtc7 fell to the ground in 6.5 seconds because of a few isolated fires??

http://www.wtc7.net/videos.html

If you really think fire did this then i will leave you alone.

 

[NJack2AF 10+ year member]

innocent civilians suffered from it didnt they. People not part of Al Qaida didnt they.....dude to this point you havent told me 1 of your theories how Afghanistan got involved in this whole thing anyways..you have yet to mention it.
Now on the other hand..I believe something like the JFK assasination was in someway setup...but that is something as I was saying earlier is MUCH easier to setup....1 person goes to another and say "ill pay you this much...get it done"...and its done...2 people know. Thats it.

That was a quote from you about afghanistan being involved man... You said that you said nothing about afghanistan being involved so I pulled the post that u asked "then why would all of afghanistan get involved" I don't think afghanistan was involved at all. Exactly, people not involved with Al Qaida were harmed in afghanistan and in Iraq, isn't that odd that we attacked those countries? If you watch that 2 hour vid and listen you will hear the theory of why our gov would stage the attacks and attack those countries. I still seriously don't think you watched it. I'm not saying I believe it either man, I'm just trying to get you to see what these people are talking about so that the stagnant argument can move on...

Edit: and I would try to post the theory here, but it's not my theory and I'm not even saying I believe it. + the guy takes 2 hours to explain it lol, it would take me forever to type it.

 

[snb778 5,000+ posts]

but there is a history between the US and Afghan. and they have tried to attack those same buildings before...so its no surprise even that they chose them again. And I just dont understand that "If this was staged" why arent more people like these guys going to the media and trying to blow up this idea through out the country. Protest the Gov. Get out there and prove them wrong. There were 300,000 people walking the street of Chicago last week trying to say that keeping them out of our country was wrong...if word got out that this even was staged, dont you think there would be millions across the country protesting...

as I said...i used to be just like this guy...but If I was going to believe it...I wanted to make sure it was true, so I DID RESEARCH it. Im sure it this guy wanted to he could email someone who was at the Pentagon and ask him some of these quesitons, and im sure there would be perfectly good explination for it..but ya know what..he wouldnt believe it anyways cause he would think its all a part of the conspiracy, to keep it goin.

 

[NJack2AF 10+ year member]

The thing I hate about these conspriacy theory threads is that they expect you to do your own research.... and if you go to EVERY link they provide and watch all of the videos and bring up a questions you get replies like "you haven't done enough research" or "you're stupid and missing the facts" and shit like that... Even though a lot of the sites that are provided are not credible sites IMO...
And you say you should research and draw your own conclusion, but I know when I commented that I believe some of the stuff may have been set up while I still believe it was a terrorist thing, I get a "you're a dumb ***" comment back... The people believing it was a conspiracy only want you to think one way or they call you a dumb ***... or they criticize what you think with stupid come backs... Is this some kind of cult? you're telling me to draw my own conclusions, and after doing so, you tell me I am wrong and have to think like you...

The more of these threads that pop up, the more I doubt the conspiracy theory now... I think it's all government/George Bush haters with sticks up their *****.

Yeah it is kind of stupid that they are trying to have you formulate your own opinion and then call u stupid when it isn't the same as theirs... if ya watch the vids and disagree ya can only ask them questions to prove em wrong, dont tell em they are wrong, SHOW them they are wrong just like they are trying to show u u are wrong.

 

[btmorris972 10+ year member]

Everyone reading this thread please watch this video.

http://www.cerebellum.tv/fvideo/BYU.php

Dr steven jones is a 20 year physics professor. He makes some very good points in his presentation.

also check out schollars for truth.

http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/

Heres 200+ 9/11 'Smoking Guns'

Found in the Mainstream Media

http://killtown.911review.org/911smokingguns.html

 

[snb778 5,000+ posts]

im gonna just not think about it...let my mind free and go smoke a blunt.. PIECE!...then get some snickers ice cream!

 

[NJack2AF 10+ year member]

but there is a history between the US and Afghan. and they have tried to attack those same buildings before...so its no surprise even that they chose them again. And I just dont understand that "If this was staged" why arent more people like these guys going to the media and trying to blow up this idea through out the country. Protest the Gov. Get out there and prove them wrong. There were 300,000 people walking the street of Chicago last week trying to say that keeping them out of our country was wrong...if word got out that this even was staged, dont you think there would be millions across the country protesting...

Yeah, i agree. Look at it this way tho. Terrorists attacked the WTC b4 so if the gov was to stage an attack wouldn't that be a perfect place to do it? It would be pretty easy to say they came back to hit it again since they failed the first time. Also I think those terrorists (osama) would be more than glad to claim that they did it even if they didn't... That's like a freeby for em LOL.

A couple ppl have gone to the media, that one post that guy put up earlier was about some guy that did but u didnt look at it lol. Not sure if I believe it, good read nonetheless...

 

[BigManFred3251 10+ year member]

I'm just throwing this out in the open to see what ppl will say about it, but lets say it has to do with plans of a NWO. I'm not here to argue with ne one. i just want to see what ppl think about that. The way things have been going ne thing is possible. It could be a inside job and it might not be. There is still alot more that could be done to get enough cold evidence of what really happend and for what reason. I'm not sure what could be done so I couldn't answer that. I say let things go on and let the world shit on its self. Sooner or later things will be in the open and it might be to late to do ne thing about it. The ppl that think it was a inside job.....well its something that you believe, but argueing with ppl that dont believe in what you are saying isnt going to prove ne thing. The ppl that dont think it was should do just the same. Me myself I'm open to what ever ne one has to say its there word. I'm very interested in all of this so im gonna watch these threads to hear what ppl have to say. Im not on ne sides, but I just wanted to throw something in to see what people would say about that. Thats all I'm saying and I dont plan on holding grounds for my self becuz of what I have wrote in here.

-Fred

 

[NJack2AF 10+ year member]

im gonna just not think about it...let my mind free and go smoke a blunt.. PIECE!...then get some snickers ice cream!

Have fun cheefin, I quit a while back... I'm goin to sleep, I'm tired as hell...

 

[AllStar1500bd 5,000+ posts]

The thing I am most curious about is the video that was confiscated that recorded the "plane" that hit the Pentagon.

 

[btmorris972 10+ year member]

but there is a history between the US and Afghan. and they have tried to attack those same buildings before...so its no surprise even that they chose them again. And I just dont understand that "If this was staged" why arent more people like these guys going to the media and trying to blow up this idea through out the country. Protest the Gov. Get out there and prove them wrong. There were 300,000 people walking the street of Chicago last week trying to say that keeping them out of our country was wrong...if word got out that this even was staged, dont you think there would be millions across the country protesting...
as I said...i used to be just like this guy...but If I was going to believe it...I wanted to make sure it was true, so I DID RESEARCH it. Im sure it this guy wanted to he could email someone who was at the Pentagon and ask him some of these quesitons, and im sure there would be perfectly good explination for it..but ya know what..he wouldnt believe it anyways cause he would think its all a part of the conspiracy, to keep it goin.

You do realise that bin laden has been involved with the cia for years??

You also realise that we trained al-Qaeda right:crazy:

 

[NJack2AF 10+ year member]

I'm just throwing this out in the open to see what ppl will say about it, but lets say it has to do with plans of a NWO. I'm not here to argue with ne one. i just want to see what ppl think about that. The way things have been going ne thing is possible. It could be a inside job and it might not be. There is still alot more that could be done to get enough cold evidence of what really happend and for what reason. I'm not sure what could be done so I couldn't answer that. I say let things go on and let the world shit on its self. Sooner or later things will be in the open and it might be to late to do ne thing about it. The ppl that think it was a inside job.....well its something that you believe, but argueing with ppl that dont believe in what you are saying isnt going to prove ne thing. The ppl that dont think it was should do just the same. Me myself I'm open to what ever ne one has to say its there word. I'm very interested in all of this so im gonna watch these threads to hear what ppl have to say. Im not on ne sides, but I just wanted to throw something in to see what people would say about that. Thats all I'm saying and I dont plan on holding grounds for my self becuz of what I have wrote in here.
-Fred

Good post. BTW if you think it could have somethin to do with what u said in your first sentence that 2 hour long vid i was talking about is basically a guy that has a theory like that explaining it... Interesting vid, he makes some good points, but a lot of it doesnt seem all that credible...