team nutz - pittsburgh

[BreakingBad]

acura, you really think i give 2 shits about some dumbasses on the internet photoshopping my picture?

i have the balls to make my picture public... i'm not insecure like some people.. COUGH

don't be jealous that my mug attracts more women then yours.

ignored along with twistid..

you and twistid can enjoy your gay fantasies in my ignore box //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[AcuraRSX544]

you gave enough to respond to it. Your an idiot give it up.

Face the facts its in the photo

 

[Nutz]

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[ace_800]

Congrats, doesn't mean you don't ****up a time or two. And when you do you should still appologize, thats call good customer service.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif

I know a few shops in SA and Orlando that have or had those installer of the year mags they were in, some now don't get hardly any business or are out of business cause of bad customer service:uhoh:

 

[BreakingBad]

Congrats, doesn't mean you don't ****up a time or two. And when you do you should still appologize, thats call good customer service.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif
I know a few shops in SA and Orlando that have or had those installer of the year mags they were in, some now don't get hardly any business or are out of business cause of bad customer service:uhoh:

exactlyyyyyyy.

bottom line is the dude and his pos company are a joke, customer service doesn't exist there, they **** up they dont care and tell the customer to **** off.

 

[Twistid]

 

[Nutz]

ACE:

I never said I am perfect. And believe me we have had things go wrong before. We work with Electronics, Electronics break at the snap of a finger. There is not an installer that can say they have never seen a blown amp, sub, radio or more.

But to crucify me over a mixed up situation that has more mis communication then the president on Iraq is wrong.

When something went wrong with his car, we told him to bring his car back immediately without question. We dropped what we were doing to make sure that we didn't make any mistakes, because it does happen.

Sublime left our shop happy and tells people in our showroom that his system is rattling our glass cases. We were glad, he was happy and we did what we felt was good customer service. We also advised him not to play the system until his voltage problem was fixed!!!!.

So again I ask, how does a system get damaged within days from when it left our shop when he was instructed not to play it until his upgraded alternator was put back in. Simple: He played the system without the upgraded alternator that I told him had a voltage drop below 9 volts, because I tested it myself before removing the alt and after. I even called him to suggest not to remove it because it did work fine, but he said he was getting a new one.

So anyone that wants to agree with him, that is fine, but tell me why 9 volts is not the issue. Say what you want about the braided 4 guage wire (its real 4guage), ground locations, self tapping screws, rca's, alan keys that were stuck to the magnet that each sub comes with in the box.....use all those excuses, but the system worked with 2 12's for nine months with those factors, even worked the day we removed the 12's but it did not work 100% when he asked us to remove his alternator and replace it with a factory alt. Voltage went from 14 volts steady to instant 9 volts when playing the subs..

So am I perfect NO, never said that, but look at the facts and not excuses to 9 volts.

I want to hear who has a system that works at 9 volts and does not get damaged products, especially a high quality amplifier like us that is amperage and voltage hungry. And as he said the Head Tech from US said there were bad grounds could be a result of the problem, when you have a bad ground your voltage will drop, but it is funny that the same wiring minutes before read a steady 14 volts with a different alternator same amplifier, so the ground must have worked a little bit to get 14 volts with a 1500 watt amplifier pumping 140+ db.

He was warned, did not listen to anyone except his internet friends and has sent his amp back for repairs how many times? I have never had to replace a US AMP AX amplifier they are flawless under the right circumstances.

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[BreakingBad]

ACE:
I never said I am perfect. And believe me we have had things go wrong before. We work with Electronics, Electronics break at the snap of a finger. There is not an installer that can say they have never seen a blown amp, sub, radio or more.

But to crucify me over a mixed up situation that has more mis communication then the president on Iraq is wrong.

When something went wrong with his car, we told him to bring his car back immediately without question. We dropped what we were doing to make sure that we didn't make any mistakes, because it does happen.

Sublime left our shop happy and tells people in our showroom that his system is rattling our glass cases. We were glad, he was happy and we did what we felt was good customer service. We also advised him not to play the system until his voltage problem was fixed!!!!.

So again I ask, how does a system get damaged within days from when it left our shop when he was instructed not to play it until his upgraded alternator was put back in. Simple: He played the system without the upgraded alternator that I told him had a voltage drop below 9 volts, because I tested it myself before removing the alt and after. I even called him to suggest not to remove it because it did work fine, but he said he was getting a new one.

So anyone that wants to agree with him, that is fine, but tell me why 9 volts is not the issue. Say what you want about the braided 4 guage wire (its real 4guage), ground locations, self tapping screws, rca's, alan keys that were stuck to the magnet that each sub comes with in the box.....use all those excuses, but the system worked with 2 12's for nine months with those factors, even worked the day we removed the 12's but it did not work 100% when he asked us to remove his alternator and replace it with a factory alt. Voltage went from 14 volts steady to instant 9 volts when playing the subs..

So am I perfect NO, never said that, but look at the facts and not excuses to 9 volts.

I want to hear who has a system that works at 9 volts and does not get damaged products, especially a high quality amplifier like us that is amperage and voltage hungry. And as he said the Head Tech from US said there were bad grounds could be a result of the problem, when you have a bad ground your voltage will drop, but it is funny that the same wiring minutes before read a steady 14 volts with a different alternator same amplifier, so the ground must have worked a little bit to get 14 volts with a 1500 watt amplifier pumping 140+ db.

He was warned, did not listen to anyone except his internet friends and has sent his amp back for repairs how many times? I have never had to replace a US AMP AX amplifier they are flawless under the right circumstances.

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wow you must have been dropped on your head as a baby.

1.) you tested my alt when you installed my 12s, apparently it was fine then.

2.) you told me i was having voltage drops and i immediately took it out and put in an EA 200 amp alternator.

the amp was damaged due to a bad ground, you ****ing moron. JR will tell you that.

quit lying and making shit up already, even as i sit here and tell you that i didnt play my system you constantly reply and say i did..and thats your excuse.

stfu. you wired my shit wrong. hop off a cliff

 

[Nutz]

Your telling me that you immediately put in your new alt. When your posting on realm that you didn't get your new alt for at least a week after you left my store.

Which one is it????? A on 6/19/07 or B on 7/2/07

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06-19-2007, 06:49 PM #1

KMK

Banned

07 XXX.. 1500W doesnt do sh**

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Ok so i figured that with my new 18" XXX 1500W would be enough to run it until i could afford the 2000DE, but to inform everyone about the new re ****..

this sub needs a minimum of 3000W to just MOVE it.

1500W doesnt do ****.

disappointed, but at the same time curious to see how hard the **** would hit with 3000+.

anyone know of any quality amps that can throw 3000W out besides us amps?

and im serious. my 12" sx slams harder than this **** on 1500W.

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B:

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07-02-2007, 02:25 PM #1

KMK

Banned

In your OPINION - what should I do?

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I know my alternator is dropping voltage like crazy because my bass is cutting out randomly, and a lot. Two questions that relate to this issue... can severe voltage drops cause music/bass distortion? i know voltage drops can 'injure' or damage an amp, BUT, can it affect sound quality? like my subs (either the xxx or the 2 sx's) will still hit hard as hell, but it seems as if theres a 'hardness' to the bass, and its not that deep low soft bass (you know what im talking about).. could this change in sound quality/bass be due to the voltage drops or does it sound like the amp has been damaged?

Also. To those of you who saw the sub video i had with the scratching noise.. the voice coil on my sub looks fine. nothing is 'unraveling'. could that scratching noise be attributed to something else such as an amp issue or alternator issue? or does that sound like a sub-specific issue and it needs replaced/repaired regardless?

i'm asking all these questions because i need to narrow down the problems to the TRUE issue at hand, because i would hate to have the sub repaired/replace and when it came down to it it be an alternator or amp issue.

about the alternator.. my stock alternator & battery worked PERFECT (even at 105 amps) with my 2 sx 12's. after i put an aftermarket 200 amp alt in, i had engine whine with a 'humming' coming from the subs. this is on 4 gauge wire from alt to battery. i had this install bay (cough cough) swap out the aftermarket for the stock again, and put in an optima yellow top - now my voltage is dropping like crazy apparently, and the bass is distorted/cuts out and doesn't sound as good as it used to. (and i've tested both the sx's and the xxx)

so what would you guys recommend i do? send sub out for repair/replacement ? (voice coils reading 2.4-2.6 each) send out amp for repair/check up? or does all these issues sound like the alternator & voltage drops?

 

[BreakingBad]

yes dumbass, the stock alt was used on my 12's, but not on my 18. even after having you re-wire my sub i did NOT play my system until i had the alternator upgraded.

youre still beating around the bush... you wired my sub wrong. this has nothing to do with my amp problems (thats a whole nother issue)

 

[Nutz]

So you didn't play the sub until you put in the new alternator?

Are these your posts? not sure. I believe KMK is your name on realm?

June 20: This is the day after you left my shop and I told you not to play it until you have the alt......

June 21Then next is when you said you video taped the system playing.....after I said not to......

July 2 you admit to voltage droping and a system cutting out......But how would you know this unless you played your system after I told you not to....

But again it worked when you left Team Nutz, just didn't take there advise.

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06-20-2007, 07:39 PM #144

KMK

Banned

my buddy who's good with this stuff blew me off as far as helping me tonight. i wanted to get this fixed, so i called the install place and *****ED. he said bring it down we will go over it WITH you, which i figured hey they have the tools, i'll be watching, its all good.

he took the sub out, re-did the wiring PROPERLY, i even showed him the diagram, put the sub back in - magic - it's hittin.

BUT.

when he was connecting the voice coils to this little yellow bastard to show me the excursion, one side's voice coil did not move as far as the other one did. he said that could be a manufacturer defect..

i also now have 2 sets of wires since he tied both vc's into each other..watched him do it.. which he thinks fixed the main issue of no bass..

it's definately bangin, but there are some concerns..

i was hearing a literal 'scratching' noise coming from the sub, while idling @ volume 0. it was doing it at higher volumes also. it literally sounded like errrrr errrrrr but almost a scratching noise. called the install guys again.. he said he doesnt know what it could be, we didnt hear it when we tested it out, but he did say my alternator was dropping voltage occasionally which could account for the sub cutting out at certain times and the amp was going into protection..

so basicaly.. i have bass now, but it still needs tweaked. also, it seems that on the low notes instead of gettin real real low and rumbling i can see everything shaking in my car, but outside its not even noticable.

on my head unit there is a x-over option, if selected you can choose like 60hz, 80hz, 100hz, 160 hz, etc etc. what should that be set on?

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06-21-2007, 02:42 PM #177

KMK

Banned

well another update..

apologize for the videos, didnt convert right. i'll try to make some new ones.

(how do you make video's without playing the system???)

about the excursion not being the same on both voice coils when tested, RE said this is normal for the new XXX.

anyway, i talked to RE about the screeching/scratching noise coming from the sub. they said it just sounds like ANOTHER bad wiring job and/or a bad ground somewhere.

i finally got my buddy to get off his ass and help me today, HOPEFULLY, so we are going to take it out, HOPEFULLY re-wire it the correct way and maybe re-do the ground if possible.

more than likely the sub is okay, but the wiring is effed apparently.

funny thing is, the shop won't take responsibility because i didnt BUY IT FROM THEM.

RE was already notified about the shotty customer service and ****ty installs being as they are an authorized RE dealer. i hope to god RE drops those ****s.

and a side note:

to the ****s who say i'm stupid or this thread is stupid, take your gerbil nuts and get the **** out.

and this is also a temp. setup. i'll be getting a new car in a year or so at which point who knows what happens.

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07-02-2007, 02:25 PM #1

KMK

Banned

In your OPINION - what should I do?

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Ok. A good portion of you saw my previous thread about my XXX 18 and the ensuing problems after i had it installed at a local install bay.

I also have a video on here of the sub making a scratching noise.

This is where I need some guidance on what exactly to do. I'm actually having a guy whos apparently AWESOME with installs give me a call and maybe help work me through some issues im having with my electrical system/subs etc..

I know my alternator is dropping voltage like crazy because my bass is cutting out randomly, and a lot. Two questions that relate to this issue... can severe voltage drops cause music/bass distortion? i know voltage drops can 'injure' or damage an amp, BUT, can it affect sound quality? like my subs (either the xxx or the 2 sx's) will still hit hard as hell, but it seems as if theres a 'hardness' to the bass, and its not that deep low soft bass (you know what im talking about).. could this change in sound quality/bass be due to the voltage drops or does it sound like the amp has been damaged?

Also. To those of you who saw the sub video i had with the scratching noise.. the voice coil on my sub looks fine. nothing is 'unraveling'. could that scratching noise be attributed to something else such as an amp issue or alternator issue? or does that sound like a sub-specific issue and it needs replaced/repaired regardless?

i'm asking all these questions because i need to narrow down the problems to the TRUE issue at hand, because i would hate to have the sub repaired/replace and when it came down to it it be an alternator or amp issue.

about the alternator.. my stock alternator & battery worked PERFECT (even at 105 amps) with my 2 sx 12's. after i put an aftermarket 200 amp alt in, i had engine whine with a 'humming' coming from the subs. this is on 4 gauge wire from alt to battery. i had this install bay (cough cough) swap out the aftermarket for the stock again, and put in an optima yellow top - now my voltage is dropping like crazy apparently, and the bass is distorted/cuts out and doesn't sound as good as it used to. (and i've tested both the sx's and the xxx)

so what would you guys recommend i do? send sub out for repair/replacement ? (voice coils reading 2.4-2.6 each) send out amp for repair/check up? or does all these issues sound like the alternator & voltage drops?

 

[Nutz]

So lets get the story straight in your own words?

We can make mistakes, but we didn't damage your sub and definitely didn't damage your AMP.

 

[AcuraRSX544]

I would say that sublime, You Just Got Served

Checkmate

 

[BreakingBad]

wow dude, the video that i had was showing the ERRRRRR noise, there was NO music playing... the volume was on 0.

keep attempting to "catch me in a lie", but you wont...

bottom line: you wired my sub wrong and didn't admit to it.

and when i talk about music, that was on my 12's moron.

i NEVER played music on my XXX 18 with the stock alternator - YOU DID.

you also turned my gains all the way up to compensate for having wired my sub wrong.

and when i did have my new alternator put in, i tried playing the system but the problem lied in the amp - transistors were bad - due to a bad ground - INSTALLED BY YOU

i love how you are attempting to draw people's attention away from the issue at hand by talking about my alternator, my amp..

EVEN IF i did play the system with my stock alt (which i didn't), i had every right to...and i never blamed ANY alternator problems on you or your shop.

i blamed THESE problems on you and your shop:

- wired XXX 18 incorrectly first time

- power wire fell out of fuse block under hood

- used painted sheet metal with wood screws as a ground

- braided wire used in conjunction with 1/0

- didn't upgrade grounds under hood aka big 3

- didn't clean my car out at all

and some NEW shit i found, you scratched the **** out of my rear door panels which i just noticed yesterday. i'll take pictures if you don't believe me.

you can sit there and re-read that thread on ROE all you want, but you're not going to "incriminate" me or "catch me lying"... because i'm not.

 

[BreakingBad]

- LAST AND FINAL POST -

To anyone confused - i'm going to clarify what happened with Nutz' shop. You've all seen the pictures, so here goes..

On or around Sept. 2006 i went to team nutz to get a system installed. I was informed that they were carrying RE products, which i heard people raving about on CA and ROE, and i asked what would fit my budget. He charges full msrp for RE products (stupid mistake on my part spending $400 each on an RE SX 12).

Anyway at that time i was a noob so i took 2 RE SX 12's along with a US Amps AX-1500de. System installed, i enjoyed it. I also got my car tinted there (return customer). I never 'inspected' this system because i had no knowledge of what to look for, whats bad, whats good, etc. I trusted them - bad move.

About a year later i started to experience problems with my system.. mainly distortion and a 'fapping' noise coming from my 12's. Talked to Nutz about this issue, and he said its "too hard to guess", I then said i would take care of it myself but I was interested in getting an RE XXX 18. He quoted me about $800 more than my other supplier.. so i didn't buy the RE XXX from him. I then contacted him about them building me a custom box for my car in the backseat for the XXX 18. I did this because i wanted loud low bass and i've seen many sedans converted for 18s.

We set a date for them to build the box and install the XXX 18 into the box. He told me it would take 2 days and i would have to leave my car there overnight. I agreed. The day it was ready, before picking the car up i get a call from Ed (Nutz) saying this, and i quote, "Hey man, just calling to say your car is ready... but there are some problems. We installed everything, but man there is literally NO bass. This thing isn't even vibrating or moving. We tried playing it even with the gains all the way up and we smelled something burning so we turned it off. We dont recommend you play this until you get a bigger amp. I wont ever sell an XXX again because this thing needs literally a million watts just to move or create ANY bass. Greg at US told me you need an AX-3000de minimum just for the XXX to work."

I said okay, so when i picked my car up, low and behold he was right - no bass. At that time i received my Excessive Amperage alternator, had that installed ASAP and attempted playing the system once again. Same problem - no bass.

Went on ROE about my problem. Immediately people said it was probably wired out of phase or incorrectly and to get it wired correctly. Went back down to Nutz to have them assess their **** up. They took the sub out in front of me, re-wired it while i was standing there, put it back in and as i was standing in the showroom, they started to play it and one of the customers looked at me and said "holy shit is that your truck??" because it was hittin low and hard.

Ed then tells me "Yeah man we probably just wired it backwards or somethin." He then proceeded to tell me i need an amp on my hi's, blah blah blah. Avoided admitting he ****ed up and didn't offer any refund or any other assistance.

After this, with my XXX apparently wired correctly and my new alternator in, i still got distortion and a fapping noise. Went to Total Image and Auto Illusions to have them inspect my system for problems - they immediately caught the braided wire issue, they were confused as to why they used 1/0 everywhere but then braided wire at the amp... my power wire under the hood fell out of the fuse block as soon as they touched it. They told me this needed upgraded, blah blah blah. Went to Auto Illusions where Tim helped me upgrade my grounds under the hood and replaced all my wiring in the trunk for a small fee. Did a quality job on the wiring too UNLIKE team nutz' where the copper terminals literally fell off of the 1/0 wire. Sent my amp back for repair, they repaired a capacitor which fixed the 'fapping' noise. Still had tons of distortion.

Sent amp back a SECOND time, since i truly believed thats where the true problem lied, and through describing my problem to J.R., the VICE PRESIDENT of US Amps, he saw that Team Nutz used PAINTED SHEET METAL with WOOD SCREWS as a ground. He immediately notified Dirk, the designer of the amps to check the transistors because they normally can go bad if a bad ground was used. Bang - that was the problem. Transistors were effed beyond repair due to a bad ground (curteousy of Nutz) so they replaced those. Amp came back, and system is now flawless (no thanks to Nutz.) I also re-did most of the wiring myself, including on my XXX 18 - put 10 gauge knukonceptz on that beast.

So, in a quick run-down of what Nutz did wrong/****ed up:

- Painted sheet metal in trunk as ground, with wood screws (which damaged my amp's transistors)

- Braided wire used in conjunction with 1/0 when 1/0 should have been used for a 1.5-1.7kw system

- Power wire under hood fell out of fuse block, wasn't secured by the screw at all

- Grounds under hood not upgraded

- Car was left a mess

- Rear door panels have small 'cuts' all over them

Not to mention that as me and my previous boss watched them install my 12s (they were almost done when we showed up), the dude blew about 4 fuses in my car.

NOW the issue is that Nutz is coming on the internet attempting to defend his 'reputation' and lie, lie lie about what exactly happened. He knows he cannot prove that he didn't **** up as I have pictures to prove he did...so he sits there and attempts to draw the attention away from the TRUE issues as i have listed above and whines about my stock alternator dropping voltage - which COULD have been why the capacitor in the amp was bad, and i take blame for that, but the issues i listed are still Nutz' fault. As a returning customer i should have been issued a full refund on the install labor, and asked how else could they help.

Instead i was told i was an idiot, i don't know what i'm talking about, i believed my "Internet Buddies" over him (he was reffering to people on caraudio.com and roe) even when i said some of these people have systems pushing 40,000 watts.

He will continue to lie and attempt to get the attention off of his **** ups, but the truth of the matter is they ****ed up, won't admit to it and keep trying to take the attention off what they did. Nutz, you can continue having your buddies sign up and post here in your defense, but pictures don't lie. STFU.

Nutz power wire job:

Also, not to mention that after i posted here negatively reviewing Nutz' shop, he threatened to SUE me for libel and slander. SUE a customer because they reviewed your shop negatively when you damaged their equipment and screwed up their install..hmm..

 

[AcuraRSX544]

So how did you know thatyou had voltage problems and the system cut out. Sounds like me you played it and you admitted to it. Your so full of S**T your eyes are brown.

Then you take it to Total Image and Auto Illusions and they rewired the system, problem doesn't go away, why don't you bad mouth those idiots, they have burned up more vehicles then the Mckees Rocks Junior VFD.

You have officially proven your an idiot that does not know right from left. I think you should be bad mouthing the places that didn't fix your problems, not the place that warned you about problems. Nutz didn't mess your car up, your stupidity did.

Good for you to have to pay money to get your stuff fixed, you got what you deserved.

All of this is out of your own words. Quit lying and maybe you can get 1 story and not 5

Braided wire, if it has enough strainds to equal 4 gauge, its 4 gauge, wire didn't hurt your system, if anything that wire costs 4 times more then conventional 4 gauge and it is designed to reduce noise by being braided. Another thing you don't know what your talking about.

And if you went back to him and he fixed what you asked him to do, what is the problem, did he not offer you a bj or something. No refund needed you got a system playing with low voltage from removing your alt. Fix the voltage and you won't have problems. Didn't about 10 people on this forum and roe tell you that, but I guess they don't know what they are talking about either.

And last if your so sure the nutz messed your car up then why didn't you redo everything. Because you knew the wiring was correct you just wanted to blame someone else for your excuse of a human being.

Dumb.

it's definately bangin, but there are some concerns..

so basicaly.. i have bass now, but it still needs tweaked. also, it seems that on the low notes instead of gettin real real low and rumbling i can see everything shaking in my car, but outside its not even noticable.

07-02-2007, 02:25 PM #1

KMK

Banned

In your OPINION - what should I do?

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I know my alternator is dropping voltage like crazy because my bass is cutting out randomly, and a lot. Two questions that relate to this issue... can severe voltage drops cause music/bass distortion? i know voltage drops can 'injure' or damage an amp, BUT, can it affect sound quality? like my subs (either the xxx or the 2 sx's) will still hit hard as hell, but it seems as if theres a 'hardness' to the bass, and its not that deep low soft bass (you know what im talking about).. could this change in sound quality/bass be due to the voltage drops or does it sound like the amp has been damaged?

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[Ridley]

I know this post is really old... but did anyone else LOL at how long this thing went on... repeating the same crap back and fourth for over 19 ****ing pages?

 

[DUMPED]

did you really have to rehash the post 10 months later..jesus...

 

[sciullo779]

its kinda funny, ill vouge for team nutz being a shoddy shop because when they installed my amp for my component 6 1/2" s they didnt run new wire through the doors to the speakers, they connected the output of the amp wires to the HU wiring harness for one.... they ran the 4gauge power wire AND the RCA's along the same side as my antenna wire, so i have major interference and absolutely no radio, and to top it off when i told them about the interference they put on a noise suppressor thing in line with the rca's which didnt do shit, and charged me an extra $20, not to mention they sold me an older model powerbass amp for **** near retail. and when i finally cracked open my subwoofer box to transfer it to a dual 10" i found mold and water damage in the box, when its never seen water of any sort in my hands..... end rant

 

[markak134]

team nutz does **** ass they tryed to charge me $350 for them to do the big 3 **** them or is that the price with you giving me an alternator you dirty rats