TC-5200 Problems?

[Safe_Cracker 10+ year member]

I was playing my 5200 today when I noticed something weird, sounded different. Well I finally took a reading and noticed one coil wasn't reading so I pulled the beast out and noticed the tinsels yanked out of the spider(s), looks weird. Now I thought maybe it got hot but the cone was cool as heck, coils look good no burn marks or anything. Could this just have been a defective unit, it sounded so fricken good while it was playing never bottomed out, I don't use bass boost and my gain was right at 1/3. Input level at 100hz ir right around 2V and all my grounds go straight to the batteries. Polo.. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

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[xtremebassjunky 10+ year member]

rofl haha

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

While its not good to have the tinsels come free of the spider, that alone should not break contiunity of the voice coil circuit. There is another problem. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

Since, I believe, the tinsels are actually woven into the spider material, I dont see how that damaged occured any other way than over excursion. You mentioned amp setup, I dont remember, did you tell us the box size etc? Maybe its a vented system you played a lil too low below tuning? Accidently turn ssf off? etc..

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

The quality control at TC sucks...I got two defective subs in a row from them //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

 

[Q&A 10+ year member]

It looks like there is not enough tinsel lead length for the excursion capability of the sub.

 

[02parkave 5,000+ posts]

It looks like there is not enough tinsel lead length for the excursion capability of the sub.

tinsel's were woven. trust me, there is plenty

 

[Safe_Cracker 10+ year member]

You should be able to bump the back plate and have enough tinsel, one snapped because lack of and honestly it was excurding (sp) all that much. I noticed in my other subs like my Treo they are WELL woven in and these only seemed to have a threa over the tinsel ever so often but enough to where it sliced right through. Now anyone ever gotten these to really move without any spider problems? I have had subs bottom out and I have had subs that just couldn't bottom out never had the rip out like this, kinda weird. BTW the sub did sound awesome and it this thing is supposed to handle all that power then maybe this one was defective? Polo..

 

[Safe_Cracker 10+ year member]

Here you can clearly see how it isn't all that weaved in and I tugged a little on one of them and the tinsel just tore out like the spider was dry rotted! Sorry about the quality, hard to hold it, fold the spider down and shoot perfectly still with one hand! Polo..

 

[dcole18 5,000+ posts]

someone correct me if im wrong but i think the tinsel leads are supposed to be semi woven (as opposed to being part of the spiders like you were talkin about)

iirc, semi woven gives you the best of both worlds, prevents tensil slap while not compromising spider integrity...

sounds like you had a defective spider or 2

 

[casper97ta 10+ year member]

someone correct me if im wrong but i think the tinsel leads are supposed to be semi woven (as opposed to being part of the spiders like you were talkin about)
iirc, semi woven gives you the best of both worlds, prevents tensil slap while not compromising spider integrity...

sounds like you had a defective spider or 2

You are correct they are semi-woven in. To the op, you said one coil wasnt reading.. but as long as the leads aren't snapped or the coil isnt blown it should still play fine.

 

[dcole18 5,000+ posts]

You are correct they are semi-woven in. To the op, you said one coil wasnt reading.. but as long as the leads aren't snapped or the coil isnt blown it should still play fine.

ahhh +1 for me...//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

 

[J31Rob 5,000+ posts]

tinsel's were woven. trust me, there is plenty

Then why did tha tensils pop out?

 

[J31Rob 5,000+ posts]

Oh.. & better camera FTW.

 

[Safe_Cracker 10+ year member]

I wonder if it isn't possible when they soldered the tinsels to the coil and the wire holders they didn't over heat the spider, weakening it? I have literally smoked subs to the point where smoke come barelling out of the port and it still survived, this sub never even got hot...Polo.

 

[liftedcj7on44s 10+ year member]

given the "niceness" of the coil i would bet its a defective sub. doesnt look like its been overpowered or was sent a clipped signal. no rub marks from being over excurted. If it was pushed too hard there would be some VC marks on the former and the pole more than likely. so i say defective sub!