Super Size Me

[Acidburn 5,000+ posts]

Thnks, I'll never eat it again!//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/sick.gif.b1847c8dabbfeeddbcf1a78052249e10.gif

dont be silly Mike, yes you will

 

[B_Master_Flash 10+ year member]

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif Uhhhh....this analogy makes zero sense. You don' have control over the pregnancy test, and you can't skew the outcome at all to fit into your desires. When you are creating the test, you can affect the results. Apples and oranges.

Come on man, you know exactly what I'm saying, don't make me break it down for you, and don't treat me like I'm completely off topic.

:For one, they could have had the guy have some variety in his diet. If one were to view this movie in hopes of gaining some realistic, educational information that will help them in making decisions, how does a guy completely overhauling his diet to nothing but McDonalds all day every day help them? They could have just of easily had him eat a reasonable amount of McDonalds - maybe even a slightly unreasonable amount - as long as it was plausible. They could have followed a guy around who eats McDonalds a few times a week, and also follow someone around who is very similiar in anatomy, diet, exercise routine, etc., minus McDonalds, and compared the results after a certain timeframe has passed. Statistics can never be taken at face-value if there is not a control, you should know this. Hell, they could have had one guy eat McDonalds 3 times a day for a month and another eat Arby's or something 3 times a day for a month. You could then compare the results to see if in fact McDonalds is (un)healthier than their competition. This method wouldn't be that much more benficial than what they wound up doing, but at least it would bring some credibility to their results. But I'm typing too much about a movie I haven't seen, when your own words help prove my point. "Because that wouldn't make a very good movie, and they do it everyday on the news." The true purpose of a documentary isn't to be a "good movie" or to be entertaining, it's to present objective facts to the viewer/reader and educate them. If the former comes as a result, more power to the creator, but the latter must be firmly intact in order for it to be a documentary. The experiment in the movie is thoroughly unrealistic, the experiment has no control to offset any potential errors, they only chose McDonalds, implying that McDonalds is in some way worse than the other corporations and leading the viewer to believe that they have another agenda besides presenting information, I could go on. This is not a documentary and I don't have to see it to tell you that.
/rant

So you're point is that it hasn't earned the title of "documentary"? So what if it wasn't a double blind labratory test, its an interesting topic for a "movie". Notice I have never even refered to this movie as a documentary so your argument over whether it's a documentary or not must be with someone else or else its just moot. I don't even see where you're going w/ that argument anyway, my whole point is that the movie isn't slander and most likely was not manipulated to create artificial results. If you want to look at it like a serious scientific test, you could look at it like this:

Q:

What happens when guy movie is about stops his regular diet and eats nothing but supersized McDonalds burger meals 3 times a day for a month?

A:

His health seriously deteriorates.

I know I didn't bother to put that in any kind of scientific format so please dont point it out. The point is you can watch the movie and if you really are that critical, all the info you will get out of it is exactly what I wrote above, and you don't even have to be convinced of that. It should be treated as food for thought, not propaganda. If they would have made it out for McDonnalds to look like they intentionaly make their food to make people unhealthy, (something Michael Moore probably would have done), then I could understand complaining. In fact, this is what I would expect if Michael Moore would have made this film:

1) Ambigous timeline; specificaly making it appear he got health problems before he actually did (without ever explecitly stating it)

2) The main character harassing a McDonalds manager or owner about the content of their food with the film modified to make it look like the McDonalds employee was dodging his questions

3) Some rediculous attemt to financialy tie McDonnalds to some "Evil" Corporation, most likely one that tests on animals or is known for animal cruelty

Well you get the picture. Things like that definitley have no place in anything resembling a documentary, but I seriously sounds like this movie was void of them.

 

[Gauntlet 5,000+ posts]

Haha...I'm not even trying to argue with you, it just sort of came across that way. I never said it was slander, but it's much closer to slander than it being a documentary. Anyways, my point is that they could have done this experiment in a much more realistic manner.

 

[TwistedVisions 10+ year member]

Come on man, you know exactly what I'm saying, don't make me break it down for you, and don't treat me like I'm completely off topic.



So you're point is that it hasn't earned the title of "documentary"? So what if it wasn't a double blind labratory test, its an interesting topic for a "movie". Notice I have never even refered to this movie as a documentary so your argument over whether it's a documentary or not must be with someone else or else its just moot. I don't even see where you're going w/ that argument anyway, my whole point is that the movie isn't slander and most likely was not manipulated to create artificial results. If you want to look at it like a serious scientific test, you could look at it like this:

Q:

What happens when guy movie is about stops his regular diet and eats nothing but supersized McDonalds burger meals 3 times a day for a month?

A:

His health seriously deteriorates.

I know I didn't bother to put that in any kind of scientific format so please dont point it out. The point is you can watch the movie and if you really are that critical, all the info you will get out of it is exactly what I wrote above, and you don't even have to be convinced of that. It should be treated as food for thought, not propaganda. If they would have made it out for McDonnalds to look like they intentionaly make their food to make people unhealthy, (something Michael Moore probably would have done), then I could understand complaining. In fact, this is what I would expect if Michael Moore would have made this film:

1) Ambigous timeline; specificaly making it appear he got health problems before he actually did (without ever explecitly stating it)

2) The main character harassing a McDonalds manager or owner about the content of their food with the film modified to make it look like the McDonalds employee was dodging his questions

3) Some rediculous attemt to financialy tie McDonnalds to some "Evil" Corporation, most likely one that tests on animals or is known for animal cruelty

Well you get the picture. Things like that definitley have no place in anything resembling a documentary, but I seriously sounds like this movie was void of them.

Well you are correct about those 3 things not being in the movie. I just like add that even though they didn't say mcdonalds was "evil" they did point out the facts of there marketing when it comes to attracting very young kids. What i mean is that they had a group of kids ages 6-9 or so i dont' know exactly how old they were but they were young. Anyway they had a set of flash cards with george washington and george bush and then a picture of ronald mcdonald. Now guess which ones the kids could identify? They all knew ronald mcdonald but yet didn't know who was george washington. Thats a product of brilliant marketing think about how well they market there food i mean they got toys, you see probally the most mcdonald commercials out of all the fast food chains. This is stuff i have already mentioned but it makes sense about how they are similar to the tobacco companys. Think about remeber that tabacoo companys used to use ice cream trucks to attract kids then get them hooked which would lead them to smoking all there life?(source is on a truth commercial if needed i will get the link but im sure you all have seen the commercial). Well MCD's does the same thing execpt not with an ice cream truck they have "toys" which is just as effective. Now dont' get me wrong im not trying to say fast food is as bad as tobacco because thats ludacris but we dont' know exactly what are in the french frys execpt man made additives. Check out this link french fry

This is just an excert from it talking about the additives "

Open your refrigerator, your freezer, your kitchen cupboards, and look at the labels on your food. You'll find "natural flavour" or "artificial flavour" in just about every list of ingredients. The similarities between these two broad categories are far more significant than their differences. Both are man-made additives that give most processed food its taste"

There is more but thats alot to copy and paste but it does make you wonder what all is in the food you eat if nothing else.

 

[nosaj070 10+ year member]

I see your point but isn't the reason he used mcdonalds was because of the case with the two young girls that sued MCD's and later lost because there attorneys coudn't prove that it was the mcdonalds that led to there health problems?

If thats the reason, its retarded. That is like me trying to sue Bacardi because I got health problems from it. If I really cared, I could have not drank. Making a movie because some moron got fat, and then got pissed about it and couldn't blame it on anything is absolutely absurd.

 

[TwistedVisions 10+ year member]

If thats the reason, its retarded. That is like me trying to sue Bacardi because I got health problems from it. If I really cared, I could have not drank. Making a movie because some moron got fat, and then got pissed about it and couldn't blame it on anything is absolutely absurd.

Well to be honest i dont' know if his reason was because of the girls that sued and later lost and he wanted to prove that mcdonalds was the cause. Or just to show that the fast food was really unhealthy for you, or did it just because he didn't like mcd's. I really dont' know and i think its rather irrelevent his reasoning behind it. The difference between barcardi and fast food is that you know exactly the Ingrediants in your beverage where as mcdonald french fries you don't know everything in it. I guess im the only one that found this movie the least bit enlighting and is uneasy with knowing that not only the food i eat at mcdonalds is processed but has mystery additives that aren't released to the public. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/uhoh.gif.c07307dd22ee7e63e22fc8e9c614d1fd.gif

 

[Gauntlet 5,000+ posts]

Intuition should tell you that something is awry...it's mass produced food, sold to millions of people everyday at millions of locations across the globe. Expecting anything even remotely healthy is quite silly. And the FDA requires that all of the ingredients be publicly available:

http://www.mcdonalds.com/app_controller.nutrition.categories.ingredients.index.html

And what about this guy?

 

[TwistedVisions 10+ year member]

Intuition should tell you that something is awry...it's mass produced food, sold to millions of people everyday at millions of locations across the globe. Expecting anything even remotely healthy is quite silly. And the FDA requires that all of the ingredients be publicly available:
http://www.mcdonalds.com/app_controller.nutrition.categories.ingredients.index.html

And what about this guy?

Funny that you mentioned that guy because if im not mistaken he is the same guy that is in the movie that ate 3 big macs a day on average. I had posted that link on mcdonald french fries and they stated that MCD's wouldnt' give out the ingrediants but clearly they were wrong. Just one thing guantlet what is in the ingrediants in these french fries that make them unable to break down? I mean in the movie after 10 weeks everything had spores and was breaking down but the french fries, care to put your input on that?

"French Fries:

Potatoes, partially hydrogenated soybean oil, natural flavor (beef source), dextrose, sodium acid pyrophosphate (to preserve natural color). Cooked in partially hydrogenated vegetable oils (may contain partially hydrogenated soybean oil and/or partially hydrogenated corn oil and/or partially hydrogenated canola oil and/or cottonseed oil and/or sunflower oil and/or corn oil). "

 

[Gauntlet 5,000+ posts]

You mean the guy in that link is the same guy in the movie? If so, definitely not.

 

[TwistedVisions 10+ year member]

You mean the guy in that link is the same guy in the movie? If so, definitely not.

I just did some research and the big mac guy that holds the record is the guy i was referring to in the movie. Just to clarify though its one of the people he interviewed(the director) not the person that went on the 30 day binge.

super size me

 

[Gauntlet 5,000+ posts]

Ah, ok, then it probably is him. He definitely looks like a hippie.

 

[OJ Simpson 32 10+ year member]

I have to pick this movie up............................probably get it, right after I get back from Taco Bell. Yum Yum, LOL

 

[LazyRider 10+ year member]

pumper bump

 

[Ignatowski 5,000+ posts]

I think the movie is great.........It destroys McDonalds and all they offer,its clearly illustrates that the stuff if eaten regularly is poison - and McDonalds always asks if you want to supersize and or add more poison to your meal......Fast food is JUNK,do I eat it ?

I try to avoid it,esp red meats which are made up of fillers,fats and chemicals ...

McDonalds is always last on my list of choices.....

People in this country do not take responsibility for what they eat and have little self control and are all FAT & our medical industry is getting

richer by the minute because of it.......They should TAX the fk out of fast food to help pay of all the disease they cause......

SuperSize me is PITA type reality check........I think we need more of these kind of scare tactics

 

[ahole-ic]

I think the movie is great.........It destroys McDonalds and all they offer,its clearly illustrates that the stuff if eaten regularly is poison - and McDonalds always asks if you want to supersize and or add more poison to your meal......Fast food is JUNK,do I eat it ?I try to avoid it,esp red meats which are made up of fillers,fats and chemicals ...

McDonalds is always last on my list of choices.....

People in this country do not take responsibility for what they eat and have little self control and are all FAT & our medical industry is getting

richer by the minute because of it.......They should TAX the fk out of fast food to help pay of all the disease they cause......

SuperSize me is PITA type reality check........I think we need more of these kind of scare tactics

What a communist! People should be free to make the choices they want in this country. That was the intent of its founding. Now you want to regulate what people can eat and how often? Next you'll be wanting to send the fat people into concentration camps to "slim down".