Super Size Me

[Gauntlet 5,000+ posts]

This movie is not biased at all. The whole point is to find out what happens to a person when they disreguard their health and just order super sided McDonnalds burger meals all the time. The conclusion is that it's horrible for you.

If that was the whole point of the movie, then they wasted a shitload of money making it.

I haven't seen the flick, but from the descriptions I've read, it seems fairly obvious they had an agenda set before filming, thus it's more slander than a documentary. There are many avenues they could have taken had they wanted to realistically prove that McDonalds is catastrophic to your health.

 

[davidfre21 5,000+ posts]

I haven't seen the flick, but from the descriptions I've read, it seems fairly obvious they had an agenda set before filming, thus it's more slander than a documentary. There are many avenues they could have taken had they wanted to realistically prove that McDonalds is catastrophic to your health.

well put G

 

[TwistedVisions 10+ year member]

If that was the whole point of the movie, then they wasted a shitload of money making it.
I haven't seen the flick, but from the descriptions I've read, it seems fairly obvious they had an agenda set before filming, thus it's more slander than a documentary. There are many avenues they could have taken had they wanted to realistically prove that McDonalds is catastrophic to your health.

You can't say for sure until you watch the movie though, after you do watch it i will be interested to see your viewpoint on it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/thumbsupwink.gif.129404938effda6ad9cca39e7f4b58a3.gif If it was "slander" then mcdonalds could have sued but it was a documentary not slander..just my 2 cents

 

[davidfre21 5,000+ posts]

You can't say for sure until you watch the movie though, after you do watch it i will be interested to see your viewpoint on it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/thumbsupwink.gif.129404938effda6ad9cca39e7f4b58a3.gif If it was "slander" then mcdonalds could have sued but it was a documentary not slander..just my 2 cents

all they do is it as a "documentarty" and they dont have to wrry about McDonalds

 

[mrray13 10+ year member]

i haven't seen the movie either, but i believe gauntlet is right..more slander then documentary. i mean, twisted u agreed with ng, they shouldn't have used a guy on a all healthy diet and convert immediately to fast food only. the results to him would most likely be far more catastrophic then compared to someone like me who eats fast food 3-4 times a week, excersises maybe 2-3 times a week, but eats a somewhat sensible diet the rest of the time( mostly turkey).

also, why would mcdonalds make a stink about it? most everyone knows that fastfood isn't healthy, yet most everyone still eats there. this movie will do nothing to change the majority's opinion....including mine.

btw....the fry thing is scary!!

wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/peace.gif.2db28b618ed8d1964ebbe2f5021d2c39.gif

 

[davidfre21 5,000+ posts]

btw....the fry thing is scary!!

he is a profesional //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif 8===D //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/redface.gif.62fdbfe1a101588a808c4cff71bcb942.gif

 

[TwistedVisions 10+ year member]

all they do is it as a "documentarty" and they dont have to wrry about McDonalds

Even if it was labeled a "documentary" if in fact it was slander and was mislabeled then mcdonalds could have sued. I mean in the movie the guy tried to set up an appointment to see a mcdonalds ceo which if they would have gone to this interview on his dvd then they could set the facts straight if they were false. What happened though? Well they didn't ever set up an interview because mcdonalds avoided him. I personally believe that it be difficult for mcdonalds to set up a slander lawsuit for many reasons.

1) He has 3 medical doctors that aren't biased and would testify that the information in the movie was indeed fact and not bullshit slander.

2)Mcdonalds could care less about this movie because even though it may be truthful there is people that watch it that will be uneffected and there company will still bring in millions of dollars of revenue.

3)The final reason is how exactly was it slander to begin with? I mean im sorry if i missed it but there is nothing he did that could be labeled slander.

" an abusive attack on a person's character or good name

[n] words falsely spoken that damage the reputation of another

[v] charge falsely or with malicious intent; attack the good name and reputation of someone; "The journalists have defamed me!" "The article in the paper sullied my reputation" " -Explain to me what was false in the movie?

BTW I think everyone agrees that it wouldn't have affected him the same if he didn't eat only mcdonalds 3 times a day, but the issue now is slander. Just thought i would clarify that so no one is reduntant about it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[davidfre21 5,000+ posts]

i can see it as slander because they only use McDonalds for the movie, and not all of the other companies... making the movie watchers really become bias against McDs because of this movie...

 

[B_Master_Flash 10+ year member]

If that was the whole point of the movie, then they wasted a shitload of money making it.
I haven't seen the flick, but from the descriptions I've read, it seems fairly obvious they had an agenda set before filming, thus it's more slander than a documentary. There are many avenues they could have taken had they wanted to realistically prove that McDonalds is catastrophic to your health.

Whether they had an agenda or not is irrelevant, it doesn't matter what they wanted the results to be. If my girlfriend takes a pregnancy test and I hope shes not pregrant, does that make the test biased? If the test were done just to see the results, it would have been a waste of money, but the movie is going to MAKE money (that means the cost is negative dollars), I dont see how they "wasted a shitload of money". Just b/c it makes McDonnalds look bad doesn't make it slander. When it comes down to it, we all know processed fast food is not good for you health, but its just interesting to see exactly how bad it is.

 

[B_Master_Flash 10+ year member]

If that was the whole point of the movie, then they wasted a shitload of money making it.
I haven't seen the flick, but from the descriptions I've read, it seems fairly obvious they had an agenda set before filming, thus it's more slander than a documentary. There are many avenues they could have taken had they wanted to realistically prove that McDonalds is catastrophic to your health.

What exactly do you mean "other avenues"? Do you mean a bunch of numbers (calories, fat grams, glycemic indexes) and statistics (Heart disease, hypertension, obesity, etc). Because that wouldn't make a very good movie, and they do it everyday on the news.

 

[davidfre21 5,000+ posts]

Because that wouldn't make a very good movie, and they do it everyday on the news.

doncumentaries are meant to be good, but educational

 

[Brock 5,000+ posts]

there's fecal matter in composite meats. gross.

fast food sucks, but it you want to eat it be my guest. why is it such an issue?

 

[TwistedVisions 10+ year member]

i can see it as slander because they only use McDonalds for the movie, and not all of the other companies... making the movie watchers really become bias against McDs because of this movie...

I see your point but isn't the reason he used mcdonalds was because of the case with the two young girls that sued MCD's and later lost because there attorneys coudn't prove that it was the mcdonalds that led to there health problems? It does seem like he was doing the experiement with mcd's for that reason and also because they **** the kids in with the the clown,playground and the toys. Regardless of his reasons for using only mcdonalds do you think the test would have came out different if he did use different fast food chains? What im saying is that any fast food resturant you goto such as "burger king,mcd's,kfc,ext" they all have processed foods and i dont' see how they would be any different then mcdonalds. Maybe im wrong but if i am do provide links to show the differences(like which fast food chains don't use processed foods)between mcd's and other fast food chains. One other side note i do think you are right about making the watchers biased because after watching that movie i can honestly say i don't know if i want to eat a mcdonald french fry for a while //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/sick.gif.b1847c8dabbfeeddbcf1a78052249e10.gif

 

[Gauntlet 5,000+ posts]

Whether they had an agenda or not is irrelevant, it doesn't matter what they wanted the results to be. If my girlfriend takes a pregnancy test and I hope shes not pregrant, does that make the test biased? If the test were done just to see the results, it would have been a waste of money, but the movie is going to MAKE money (that means the cost is negative dollars), I dont see how they "wasted a shitload of money". Just b/c it makes McDonnalds look bad doesn't make it slander. When it comes down to it, we all know processed fast food is not good for you health, but its just interesting to see exactly how bad it is.

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif Uhhhh....this analogy makes zero sense. You don' have control over the pregnancy test, and you can't skew the outcome at all to fit into your desires. When you are creating the test, you can affect the results. Apples and oranges.

What exactly do you mean "other avenues"? Do you mean a bunch of numbers (calories, fat grams, glycemic indexes) and statistics (Heart disease, hypertension, obesity, etc). Because that wouldn't make a very good movie, and they do it everyday on the news.

For one, they could have had the guy have some variety in his diet. If one were to view this movie in hopes of gaining some realistic, educational information that will help them in making decisions, how does a guy completely overhauling his diet to nothing but McDonalds all day every day help them? They could have just of easily had him eat a reasonable amount of McDonalds - maybe even a slightly unreasonable amount - as long as it was plausible. They could have followed a guy around who eats McDonalds a few times a week, and also follow someone around who is very similiar in anatomy, diet, exercise routine, etc., minus McDonalds, and compared the results after a certain timeframe has passed. Statistics can never be taken at face-value if there is not a control, you should know this. Hell, they could have had one guy eat McDonalds 3 times a day for a month and another eat Arby's or something 3 times a day for a month. You could then compare the results to see if in fact McDonalds is (un)healthier than their competition. This method wouldn't be that much more benficial than what they wound up doing, but at least it would bring some credibility to their results. But I'm typing too much about a movie I haven't seen, when your own words help prove my point. "Because that wouldn't make a very good movie, and they do it everyday on the news." The true purpose of a documentary isn't to be a "good movie" or to be entertaining, it's to present objective facts to the viewer/reader and educate them. If the former comes as a result, more power to the creator, but the latter must be firmly intact in order for it to be a documentary. The experiment in the movie is thoroughly unrealistic, the experiment has no control to offset any potential errors, they only chose McDonalds, implying that McDonalds is in some way worse than the other corporations and leading the viewer to believe that they have another agenda besides presenting information, I could go on. This is not a documentary and I don't have to see it to tell you that.

/rant

 

[DBfan187 5,000+ posts]

there's fecal matter in composite meats. gross.

Thnks, I'll never eat it again!//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/sick.gif.b1847c8dabbfeeddbcf1a78052249e10.gif