Sundown vs kicker

[Bassin Buick]

Sundown VS. Kicker?? seriously???

 

[wickedwitt 10+ year member]

Once your around here long enough you will understand. In any situation the Sundown will crush the Kicker. Doesnt matter what Kicker sub you pick.

Please oh please bring any 2 Sundown 12's and try me....

 

[09civic 5,000+ posts]

Please oh please bring any 2 Sundown 12's and try me....

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[wickedwitt 10+ year member]

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Laugh all you want, but the only 2 Sundown setups I've seen I was much louder than, oh and both were larger cone area setups too. And not to knock Jacobs product, I think it's quality stuff, but there are idiots like a few that have posted in this thread saying that the subs don't compare. The same people that believe 90% of a system is the box. Pretty sure those two doctrines don't add up.

 

[nateberrier 10+ year member]

Laugh all you want, but the only 2 Sundown setups I've seen I was much louder than, oh and both were larger cone area setups too. And not to knock Jacobs product, I think it's quality stuff, but there are idiots like a few that have posted in this thread saying that the subs don't compare. The same people that believe 90% of a system is the box. Pretty sure those two doctrines don't add up.

You cant polish a turd bro

 

[dbeez 5,000+ posts]

Please oh please bring any 2 Sundown 12's and try me....

So what do you have i am willing to make a bet on this one for sure.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Sundown. Simple decision, didn't even have to think.

 

[ChevyRidinLow]

I guess I work at a "overpriced car audio shop" that cares about my customers enough to sell them product that last longer than most customers own their cars. You can bash JL all you want, but you can't take away the way that their product performs. Anyone can make a woofer in their garage and sell it on the internet, some of them are even popular and some of them are even good. I wasn't actually promoting JL in this post until now. I just wanted to know if anyone had done testing head to head in a car with the same variables. And specs are specs. Theile Small priciples are what all speakers are rated under. Specs don't lie(unless its a mystical 1000 watt amp with a 25 amp fuse). People say that Sundown will outperform a JL W7, cool PROVE IT. I dont think its asking for much. BTW I think the 12W6 would be a better match-up against the Sundown woofer mentioned earlier. I am not trying to ruffle any feathers, I just would like to see actul physical evidence to back up the statements. Sorry for the rant.

w7s cost like 1000 dollars and only handle 1k watts also they have a huge problem with the cones folding in on themselves. jl is for people who dont know a single thing and get talked up easily by a fast talkin salesman abd they see a pricetag and think the numbers are awesomeness points instead of dollars. jl subs take months to break in, they are ok for sq but not at a satisfying sound level and 99% of the time jl does not honor their warranty, if they do it's after they probe your arse for information on how the sub blew and very seldom do they not find a way to weasel out of it.

You sir, are a peddler of lies.

 

[ChevyRidinLow]

Please oh please bring any 2 Sundown 12's and try me....

you = stupid

 

[Bassin Buick]

you = stupid

not necessarily. I see a solo x in his avatar. IMO i would rather have a solo x. Then when i blow it competing i can be ready for the next run in a matter of minutes. You guys are forgetting about the solo x. The only kicker still in production that i wouldn't mind owning.

 

[bhsdriller 10+ year member]

Please oh please bring any 2 Sundown 12's and try me....

you the same kicker nuthugger that's on caco?

 

[whitedragon551 5,000+ posts]

Please oh please bring any 2 Sundown 12's and try me....

I hope your kidding.

 

[ChevyRidinLow]

not necessarily. I see a solo x in his avatar. IMO i would rather have a solo x. Then when i blow it competing i can be ready for the next run in a matter of minutes. You guys are forgetting about the solo x. The only kicker still in production that i wouldn't mind owning.

oh yeah ur right. i was assuming it was a L something

 

[IonRL205 10+ year member]

Laugh all you want, but the only 2 Sundown setups I've seen I was much louder than, oh and both were larger cone area setups too. And not to knock Jacobs product, I think it's quality stuff, but there are idiots like a few that have posted in this thread saying that the subs don't compare. The same people that believe 90% of a system is the box. Pretty sure those two doctrines don't add up.

You're the 2nd person I've seen on this site that also lives in Abilene lol, I wanna hear how your Solo x's sound sometime.

You cant polish a turd bro

Actually yes you can, they proved it on mythbusters.

 

[thevic24 5,000+ posts]

Thats a great score and it sounds like you have designed it to be consistant. I think this has gotten out of hand though. I have been a installer for 15+ years and after all the companies i have seen come and go(some good alot bad) I just want to see proof before I can recommend a woofer to a client/buddy. If we are going for a killer number "great" I have a late model celica with a 12w1 on a jl250/1 that can post a 148.3 all day. You can make any woofer loud in a ported box, just tune the box to the cab of the vehicle and BAAM. Its sounds like **** in that enclosure, but its RFL. Thats not what im looking for. I just was curious if anyone had tried to compare these(kicker vs Sundown) woofers with all the same variables. If nobody has done it then cool, maybe I should order one of each and build a sealed, ported and bandpass for both woofer and test them at ideal power ratings and enclosure specs and then post it here.

148.3??

Now that is a cool STORY bra....

Well, we want PROOF that JL is any better....

What real awards has JL won in the last........5-8 years in the SQ and SPL lanes???

And you have been an installer for 15+ years you say??? Really???

Up until poast #20, no one had compared JL to any thing until I did. And it wasn't Sundown......DD3512 FIY

Bye they way, no one had comared JL to Sundown until YOU did.

You sure you actually have 15 years in the field.....