Sundown amps: What makes them so good?

[darsum 10+ year member]

But in fairness to the Crossfire, it is a very powerful amp. Good for pushing the subs. during "one note" competitions...

 

[lilmaniac2 5,000+ posts]

Still I believe that there are some sonic differences even between mono amps. I have had the Rockford BD 1501 and Crossfire VR 2000 amps. For me, the RF sounds better than the CF. It has a faster, more accurate response. It may have something to do with its bd technology, slew rate, or damping factor? Not sure though. What I'm sure is, it sounds better.

possibly, in my 2 years in dealing with basic electronics I dont know anything that could make it sound quicker, but like i said i dont know for sure

The sundown sounds great tho...

 

[darsum 10+ year member]

It's probably the wires. You used different wires.

No. The same wires, the same DD subs, the same everything.

 

[lilmaniac2 5,000+ posts]

I've yet to hear a dd sub sound good....

 

[darsum 10+ year member]

I've yet to hear a dd sub sound good....

You may have a point there. It may not be the best sounding sub. because they have a very different philosophy in building their subs. and subsequent box tuning

recommendations.

But nevertheless, with the sub. factor being constant, a sort of "drop-in" test between the two amps. which I had mentioned produced the result which I described - for me at least...

 

[darsum 10+ year member]

The sundown sounds great tho...

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Can I jack the thread by asking, if the IA 40.1 sounds great too??

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[vasilios 10+ year member]

this is why i read and dont post

Hahaha you're not alone on that one.

I've been reading this forum since 2002, then joined in 2004.

I don't find it worthwhile to post here at all... The heavy traffic that this forum possesses is the only reason I even frequent here. Lot of information a coming through here daily, car audio related and otherwise.

 

[lilmaniac2 5,000+ posts]

The sundown sounds great tho...

Now that I have your attention, //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Can I jack the thread by asking, if the IA 40.1 sounds great too??

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yup, any amplifier constructed decently sounds good to me... i cant hear the difference lol

 

[t-money 10+ year member]

All I hear is "they won't break". What is it about them makes them soooo good? I'm trying to learn more about amplifiers, and I'm curious what specifically makes the Sundown SAZ-1500 better than say, a Kicker ZX1500.1??

Sundown amps are good because from what i've read they are built good and customer service is good.. Why would i choose a sundown 1500d over a kicker zx1500.1? final ohm load, depends on what subs i have and how i have to wire them. Customer service i would say goes to kicker(from my experiences and what i've read). My friend is a kicker rep and i've never seen him have a warranty issue(regardless of what happened) with kicker. I mean i even bought i kx1200.1 off him and it was blown, kicker offered me the upgrade to the zx1500.1 since they had a problem finding the part i needed, now thats customer service. From tests i've seen the kicker puts out a little more power, but again at different ohm loads. I like supporting the small companies as well and its good to see sundown amps getting much recognition but i just don't believe that sundown customer service and products are at par with kicker yet, just my opinion. To the guy who had both and preferred the sundown, what load were you running the kicker on and what load are you running the sundown on? What subs were you running on both amps? just hard to compare the two unless the installs were pretty much the same.

 

[lilmaniac2 5,000+ posts]

Sundown amps are good because from what i've read they are built good and customer service is good.. Why would i choose a sundown 1500d over a kicker zx1500.1? final ohm load, depends on what subs i have and how i have to wire them. Customer service i would say goes to kicker(from my experiences and what i've read). My friend is a kicker rep and i've never seen him have a warranty issue(regardless of what happened) with kicker. I mean i even bought i kx1200.1 off him and it was blown, kicker offered me the upgrade to the zx1500.1 since they had a problem finding the part i needed, now thats customer service. From tests i've seen the kicker puts out a little more power, but again at different ohm loads. I like supporting the small companies as well and its good to see sundown amps getting much recognition but i just don't believe that sundown customer service and products are at par with kicker yet, just my opinion. To the guy who had both and preferred the sundown, what load were you running the kicker on and what load are you running the sundown on? What subs were you running on both amps? just hard to compare the two unless the installs were pretty much the same.

Sorry man, but I have seen jacob warrantee an amp that a customer told him he hooked the power wires up backwards on....

I am good friends with some of the guys at stillwater ( kicker ), but Sundown's warranty policies are much more lax...

 

[vehementSPL 10+ year member]

the amps arent bulletproof, but we have done some stupid stuff to them ( burping them at 1/8th ohm strapped and they still played....
you have to be doing something ( ie mounting them poorly to the box ) to break them...

as long as they are installed properly I dont see them breaking.

also they will do rated power in the poorest of installs

Nope the box had a little vibration going through it though. I mean depends . reliability states in all ways. The amps love under ohm from what I hear. But they don't like vibration. Personally due to a lot of my systems have TONS of vibration through the vehicle not my choice of amp. The boards seem to flex. Just depends what type of reliability you are speaking of. Some amps that take a physical beating blow up easily... So it is what your needs are

 

[Jeremiah25 10+ year member]

I've yet to hear a dd sub sound good....

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