Subwoofers with sound quality and questions about subs

[ciaonzo 5,000+ posts]

Sundown is not a sound quality brand. You have been reading the forum kool aid that they sound great blah blah blah. I have no problem with sundown but completely hate the fact that every forum you go to has people pushing them as great sounding subs. These people either don't know what the hell great sounding subs are or haven't heard anything better so assume that what they are hearing is great sound. Sundown subs are bulletproof and will get loud. Don't play them off as anything else. To the OP... if you are not sure what you are thinking of as SQ then please let us know. Are there any subs you have heard that you liked the sound of? Not everyone likes subs that can blend with the front stage seamlessly etc and like more of an overpowering substage. There is nothing wrong with that but it isnt SQ.

Truth in this post.
Not that Jacob couldn't make a full-blooded SQ driver, he just knows his demographic.

 

[NIHL8ION]

Sundown is not a sound quality brand. You have been reading the forum kool aid that they sound great blah blah blah. I have no problem with sundown but completely hate the fact that every forum you go to has people pushing them as great sounding subs. These people either don't know what the hell great sounding subs are or haven't heard anything better so assume that what they are hearing is great sound. Sundown subs are bulletproof and will get loud. Don't play them off as anything else. To the OP... if you are not sure what you are thinking of as SQ then please let us know. Are there any subs you have heard that you liked the sound of? Not everyone likes subs that can blend with the front stage seamlessly etc and like more of an overpowering substage. There is nothing wrong with that but it isnt SQ.

- LMFAO at this guy ^^^ Who in the fukc here was raving about and pushing the SA subs as SQ subs?! They DO sound good for what they are, and YES I've heard what would be considered and classified as "SQ" in person with my own 2 ears - GTFO here w/ your B/S bruh - Hatein' much?! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif And I do NOT recall the OP asking for any all out SQ recommendations ANYWHERE in this post.....

 

[ciaonzo 5,000+ posts]

- LMFAO at this guy ^^^ Who in the fukc here was raving about and pushing the SA subs as SQ subs?! They DO sound good for what they are, and YES I've heard what would be considered and classified as "SQ" in person with my own 2 ears - GTFO here w/ your B/S bruh - Hatein' much?! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif And I do NOT recall the OP asking for any all out SQ recommendations ANYWHERE in this post.....

Apparently you missed the title of the thread?

 

[NIHL8ION]

I have been looking around at buying subwoofers for a while but can't seem to find the right ones. I currently have a Chevy cavalier. I do not know if I should go with 2 10 inch subs or 2 12 inch subs. What subs should I go with I was looking at the sundown sa 10 and 12 but I would like to see other brands that are similar.
Thanks,

Have a nice day

Apparently you missed the title of the thread?

aparently SQ kind of went out the window a long time ago with this one //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif I was just reading what OP was asking and answering him... I seriously DOUBT highly that the OP is after ALL out "SQ" with what he asked to begin with... I somehow just can not see him looking into any focal, morel, or even JL subs for that matter as they come with a much LARGER price tag than Sundown SA's...

 

[ciaonzo 5,000+ posts]

aparently SQ kind of went out the window a long time ago with this one //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif I was just reading what OP was asking and answering him... I seriously DOUBT highly that the OP is after ALL out "SQ" with what he asked to begin with... I somehow just can not see him looking into any focal, morel, or even JL subs for that matter as they come with a much LARGER price tag than Sundown SA's...

I was thinking more along the lines of a Dayton HF/HO/Ultimax, or the EPIC. Those would offer low distortion motors and musical soft parts, along with respectable output. No one is trying to hate on Sundown, I think the focus was more about what the OP considers SQ.

 

[treesive 10+ year member]

Truth in this post.
Not that Jacob couldn't make a full-blooded SQ driver, he just knows his demographic.

Agreed. I believe he puts his two cents in on stereo integrity subs which are much more sq oriented.

 

[treesive 10+ year member]

- LMFAO at this guy ^^^ Who in the fukc here was raving about and pushing the SA subs as SQ subs?! They DO sound good for what they are, and YES I've heard what would be considered and classified as "SQ" in person with my own 2 ears - GTFO here w/ your B/S bruh - Hatein' much?! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif And I do NOT recall the OP asking for any all out SQ recommendations ANYWHERE in this post.....

I will send you a pm to the thread url everytime I see it from now on so maybe you can open your eyes a bit. Never said they didn't sound good for what they are but the thread is titled subwoofers with sound quality and then he is looking into sundown. I decided since the first several people would dare not say anything about it that I would bring it up so the OP knows that he either is not wanting a SQ sub based on if he heard one and liked it or that he has been reading on the forums of which all praise sundown in areas the company deserves praise (build quality/SPL) but also in the areas it does not (Sound Quality). I never said you haven't heard a legit SQ setup so don't know where that was from. I don't remember spewing hate at sundown anywhere in my post as I have used several series of sundown and have had an overall good experience with them. I did however show hate towards those that put sundown in every thread no matter what the thread is asking for advice on. The op stated an interest in sundown in a SQ setup. It should have been brought up that sundown may not be the best sub choice for that setup. If you don't like that reality to bad.

 

[Timmy13091 10+ year member]

Dd 35 or 95i series //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif .. And Obsidians are **** musical as well on a budget Idc what any of you guys say ... They should be considered SQL for shure imop

 

[NIHL8ION]

I will send you a pm to the thread url everytime I see it from now on so maybe you can open your eyes a bit. Never said they didn't sound good for what they are but the thread is titled subwoofers with sound quality and then he is looking into sundown. I decided since the first several people would dare not say anything about it that I would bring it up so the OP knows that he either is not wanting a SQ sub based on if he heard one and liked it or that he has been reading on the forums of which all praise sundown in areas the company deserves praise (build quality/SPL) but also in the areas it does not (Sound Quality). I never said you haven't heard a legit SQ setup so don't know where that was from. I don't remember spewing hate at sundown anywhere in my post as I have used several series of sundown and have had an overall good experience with them. I did however show hate towards those that put sundown in every thread no matter what the thread is asking for advice on. The op stated an interest in sundown in a SQ setup. It should have been brought up that sundown may not be the best sub choice for that setup. If you don't like that reality to bad.

- I can read just find - HERE is what the OP was asking just in case you forgot how 2 fkn read there bub:

I have been looking around at buying subwoofers for a while but can't seem to find the right ones. I currently have a Chevy cavalier. I do not know if I should go with 2 10 inch subs or 2 12 inch subs. What subs should I go with I was looking at the sundown sa 10 and 12 but I would like to see other brands that are similar.
Thanks,

Have a nice day

- MY Response to OP's post:

You can't go wrong with Sundown SA subs... They are Very durable, have descent output, as well as sound quality if set up properly... The Obsidian Audio Subs are very close to The Sundown SA line for a bit cheaper if you can find those... If you don't want to give up too much trunk space I'd do a set of SA8 v.2's, a set of 10's, or a single 12 or 15 depending on your listening habits and goals to meet your needs... I ran a single SA-12 on a clean 800-1k rms in a TRUNK for almost a year that the rear seats didn't even fold down on, and I was quite happy with it... Still had a lot of trunk space too //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

- And then you came running right the fck up in here w/ something to say because I answered the OP's question:

Sundown is not a sound quality brand. You have been reading the forum kool aid that they sound great blah blah blah. I have no problem with sundown but completely hate the fact that every forum you go to has people pushing them as great sounding subs. These people either don't know what the hell great sounding subs are or haven't heard anything better so assume that what they are hearing is great sound. Sundown subs are bulletproof and will get loud. Don't play them off as anything else. To the OP... if you are not sure what you are thinking of as SQ then please let us know. Are there any subs you have heard that you liked the sound of? Not everyone likes subs that can blend with the front stage seamlessly etc and like more of an overpowering substage. There is nothing wrong with that but it isnt SQ.

But hey - Whatever, I could really give a half of a flyin fck, just making my point //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[treesive 10+ year member]

- I can read just find - HERE is what the OP was asking just in case you forgot how 2 fkn read there bub:

I have no idea why you think me posting in this thread that sundown is not a sq brand and that the OP should be informed is in any way bad mouthing you or anything you wrote. I must have skimmed over the part about only allowing one answer to every thread on a forum for asking questions, opinions and retaining info. Please forgive me. OP it has brought to my attention that I have no idea what I am talking about so please delete everything that i said from your brain as pure trash. What you have witnessed here is the exact reason sundown is never spoken negatively about on this forum and many like it. There is only one correct way to think in this world and either you think it or narrow minded people will take you as blasphemous.

I am done filling this thread with this argument so this will be my last post.

 

[NIHL8ION]

I don't understand how by READING the OP's original POST that this turned into an "SQ" who's who & what's what?! He is obviously just looking for descent subs to throw into the trunk of his cavalier - I mean use your common fkn sense and ACTUALLY READ it! OP does not think in the same terms of "SQ" as you do when he mentions "sound quality" in the title of his post - It is very obvious and apparent that the OP just wants descent sounding subs that won't break his bank... All it took was ONE person to tell him SA's would be a good all around sub decision and you got all butt hurt and took things out of context any fkn way you can by turning it to - "Sundown is NOT SQ" whah, whah, whah - Cry me a fkn river bish - I ANSWERED the OP's question that HE ASKED in his 1st post - YOU turned it into this, NOT me - lolz - Have fun ya'll I'm done with this thread, buh bye //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wave.gif.002382ce7d7c19757ab945cc69819de1.gif