SQ Music

[okiedokie 10+ year member]

wow-funny

 

[nineball 10+ year member]

There's nothing special or exciting about that album, nor should it be considered SQ.

So,

if only everyone was right in everything they though was true. as least you can go through life knowing you were never wrong and could slam others to make yourself feel better.

 

[terra 5,000+ posts]

I love hearing Fugees on an awesome setup, Home or Car.

 

[DidUHearThat? 10+ year member]

I see others have also discovered Michael Buble'. Excellent SQ, and the first track on the CD sounds great in my car. It frequenlty scares people when the orchestra kicks in. Some of the Album is gay, but overall excellent demo disk.

ON CD, NOT MP3!!!

With this kind of an album on a good system you can hear the difference.

Harry Connick Jr is similar.

 

[James Bang 5,000+ posts]

if only everyone was right in everything they though was true. as least you can go through life knowing you were never wrong and could slam others to make yourself feel better.

and I thought my tweets were sensitive...

 

[Megalomaniac 5,000+ posts]

and I thought my tweets were sensitive...

Yea, his are pretty emo....must be DDuh

 

[DidUHearThat? 10+ year member]

Peerless HDS tweets | Peerless Exclusive 7"s | Peerless SLS 10"s | Rl-P/Fi 12 | ...

You have tweets, 7"s, 10"s and a 12? Are you running them as a 4 way active system? That's a lot of low/mid for a car. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/cool.gif.3bcaf8f141236c00f8044d07150e34f7.gif

 

[James Bang 5,000+ posts]

You have tweets, 7"s, 10"s and a 12? Are you running them as a 4 way active system? That's a lot of low/mid for a car. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/cool.gif.3bcaf8f141236c00f8044d07150e34f7.gif

That is correct. highs, midrange, midbass, and subbass. the 10''s are playing anywhere near their potential.

 

[FoxPro5 5,000+ posts]

I see others have also discovered Michael Buble'. Excellent SQ, and the first track on the CD sounds great in my car. It frequenlty scares people when the orchestra kicks in. Some of the Album is gay, but overall excellent demo disk.

Interesting you say. I use that a lot too. So much that it begged some looking into.

Here's "Save The Last Dance For Me" which really showcases the dynamics of the band together...

https://www.dailymotion.com/embed/video/x28z80

Sounds good? Clean? Nope, it's not....

SoundForge scan that looks for clipping at 0 dB (the wall)...

Sinner.

Now, SF scan with the clip indicator at a lower tolerance. Instead of 0 dB, were at -.5 dB (basically audibly indistinguishable from 0 dB "the wall")....

Dirty dirty wore! It crosses over the new "wall" thousands of times. That's thousands of points of music lost.....meaning you cannot hear it, it's "washed out" due to poor recording management.

I wonder what the track would sound like if it wasn't so loud? I love it dirty, though don't get me wrong...I just think it's very interesting how the human ear is so HORRIBLE at detecting this so called "sound quality." And it lends further credence to the fact that most people, when they state "sound quality is subjective" don't know what the hell they are talking about. What they really should say, IMHO, is "MY preference for sound" is subjective, which is just silly to say because of course your preference is subjective.

 

[FoxPro5 5,000+ posts]

That is correct. highs, midrange, midbass, and subbass. the 10''s are playing anywhere near their potential.

That's ok. TEAM Front Fill still needs good men like you. Care to join? You have my blessing as a charter member! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/veryhappy.gif.fec4fed33b4a1279cf10bdd45a039dae.gif

 

[James Bang 5,000+ posts]

That's ok. TEAM Front Fill still needs good men like you. Care to join? You have my blessing as a charter member! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/veryhappy.gif.fec4fed33b4a1279cf10bdd45a039dae.gif

whoops. i meant the 10"s aren't playing near their potential.

accepted

Team Front Fill

front fill

rear fill

I try to fill in anywhere I can on her.

 

[DidUHearThat? 10+ year member]

Interesting you say. I use that a lot too. So much that it begged some looking into.
Here's "Save The Last Dance For Me" which really showcases the dynamics of the band together...

Sounds good? Clean? Nope, it's not....

SoundForge scan that looks for clipping at 0 dB (the wall)...

Sinner.

Now, SF scan with the clip indicator at a lower tolerance. Instead of 0 dB, were at -.5 dB (basically audibly indistinguishable from 0 dB "the wall")....

I'm not sure what your trying to show here. When set at 0 DB, the track is clean (mostly). Why did you lower the clip indicator below 0? "audibly indistinguishable" is irrelevent. The only issue is does it clip? It's not clipping our ears, it's a only a mathmatical issue inside the computer. Does it clip internally or not? No.

Dirty dirty wore! It crosses over the new "wall" thousands of times. That's thousands of points of music lost.....meaning you cannot hear it, it's "washed out" due to poor recording management.

What? What was lost? Nothing was washed out. You just moved the clip indicator. You can lower it another 10 db, it won't "loose" any more "points of music". Your just getting premature clip indication. It seems to show very good recording management that so much would change by lowering the apparenent theashold by only .5 db. It seems like they maximized there dynamic range very well. I don't understand what your trying to show here with a new fictional threashold. It has no relation to the actual threashold

I wonder what the track would sound like if it wasn't so loud? I love it dirty, though don't get me wrong...I just think it's very interesting how the human ear is so HORRIBLE at detecting this so called "sound quality." And it lends further credence to the fact that most people, when they state "sound quality is subjective" don't know what the hell they are talking about. What they really should say, IMHO, is "MY preference for sound" is subjective, which is just silly to say because of course your preference is subjective.

Not sure who your talking to here.

My comment was that it sounds excellent, meaning much better than most, and I can hear the difference between the MP3 version and the CD version. I was hoping that you had shown us the difference in dynamic range or bandwidth between the those two. Especially on "Feeling good".

 

[DidUHearThat? 10+ year member]

That is correct. highs, midrange, midbass, and subbass. the 10''s aren't playing anywhere near their potential.

Nice. Your an inspiration. I am a big fan of using 4 way active systems... IN A CONCERT SYSTEM! LOL!

 

[James Bang 5,000+ posts]

Nice. Your an inspiration. I am a big fan of using 4 way active systems... IN A CONCERT SYSTEM! LOL!

eh.. it's just a 3-way front fill with a sub in the back... playing songs recorded with clippage.

 

[Megalomaniac 5,000+ posts]

I'm not sure what your trying to show here. When set at 0 DB, the track is clean (mostly). Why did you lower the clip indicator below 0? "audibly indistinguishable" is irrelevent. The only issue is does it clip? It's not clipping our ears, it's a only a mathmatical issue inside the computer. Does it clip internally or not? No.What? What was lost? Nothing was washed out. You just moved the clip indicator. You can lower it another 10 db, it won't "loose" any more "points of music". Your just getting premature clip indication. It seems to show very good recording management that so much would change by lowering the apparenent theashold by only .5 db. It seems like they maximized there dynamic range very well. I don't understand what your trying to show here with a new fictional threashold. It has no relation to the actual threashold

A song should not be louder than -14db - -10db throughout a song on average this gives plenty of dynamic range, only the tom toms will clip just barely from the attack of the sound, even then its not every track(instrument) clipping its just one instrument. If you want the song louder, get a more powerful amplifier but do not degrade the recording. The loudest recorded album was around -3db( some rock band the album was called "Raw Power" from the 80s iirc) before this "Loudness War"....or should i call it "Loudness Nonsense"