Sound deadening

[Parker G 10+ year member]

good luck getting anything from CS they never returned any of my emails.

 

[AudioAnonymous 10+ year member]

That's odd. He's usually very good with returning e-mails. Some e-mails do go in his spam folder. If your interested you can PM me on here and I will forward it to him if you want.

 

[Rudy 10+ year member]

what about protecto wrap. its a butyle rubber with a layer of aluminum. it runs 14 bucks for a 6in by 25 foot roll

If you can find it, it isn't terrible IF you get the butyl adhesive with aluminum foil version. Keep in mind that they also make asphalt versions and versions with a useless for sound deadening poly facing. Also, it is flashing tape and MUCH thinner and lighter than real sound deadener. Since you will have to at least double the layers, the savings starts to disappear and the labor starts to double along with it.

Price per square foot means nothing. You really need to consider the materials, their properties and how heavy the product is.

 

[01 S 10 10+ year member]

How well will a roll-on bedliner material stick to sheets of sound deadener? I would like to roll the inside of my truck's floor once i get the deadener layed in.

 

[Rudy 10+ year member]

How well will a roll-on bedliner material stick to sheets of sound deadener? I would like to roll the inside of my truck's floor once i get the deadener layed in.

Never tried it, but water based liquid deadeners sticks very well to the aluminum faced deadener so unless it cures absolutely rigidly, I can't imagine what the problem could be. Try it on a small piece?

 

[01 S 10 10+ year member]

Never tried it, but water based liquid deadeners sticks very well to the aluminum faced deadener so unless it cures absolutely rigidly, I can't imagine what the problem could be. Try it on a small piece?

Ok, I'll try it. Im also concerned about the life of the bed liner material. How will it hold up 6 months or a year from now when it is rolled on the deadener. Ill just try it out on a small piece if i can.

EDIT::: another issue i see coming is that the deadener is not as stiff as a metal bed floor, and it will probably flex and move when I put my feet on it. I could see it cracking after a while maybe....

thanks,

Cody

 

[WillyG4444 10+ year member]

RamMat ftw

 

[Anthony Collova 10+ year member]

How well will a roll-on bedliner material stick to sheets of sound deadener? I would like to roll the inside of my truck's floor once i get the deadener layed in.

That would work great.

We sell a lot of sound deadening to Jeep owners that use no carpet in their rides.

Usualy they do a layer of Damplifier or Damplifier Pro onthe sheet metal then apply a professional 2 part system like Inyati, Line-X or Rhino liner on top.

It works out really well.

Bed liners alone don't do much in the way of sound deadening but they do add weight which helps lower the resonant frequency of the car, and they add strenth to the foil on the CLVED which helps increase the sound deadening results from the butyl/foil combo.

Hope that helps

ANT

http://www.secondskinaudio.com

 

[tsenfw 10+ year member]

I just bought the damplifier pro bulk pack. Hope it works out well, it was **** expensive LOL

 

[01 S 10 10+ year member]

That would work great.We sell a lot of sound deadening to Jeep owners that use no carpet in their rides.

Usualy they do a layer of Damplifier or Damplifier Pro onthe sheet metal then apply a professional 2 part system like Inyati, Line-X or Rhino liner on top.

It works out really well.

Bed liners alone don't do much in the way of sound deadening but they do add weight which helps lower the resonant frequency of the car, and they add strenth to the foil on the CLVED which helps increase the sound deadening results from the butyl/foil combo.

Hope that helps

ANT

http://www.secondskinaudio.com

Ok. sounds like a plan! I just need to find a Line-X or Rhino liner that I can do myself and not have to have it done for me. I wonder if they have a roll in style.... because I dont have capabilities to spray anything unless it came with a sprayer.

Thanks a lot

Cody

 

[Anthony Collova 10+ year member]

Ok. sounds like a plan! I just need to find a Line-X or Rhino liner that I can do myself and not have to have it done for me. I wonder if they have a roll in style.... because I dont have capabilities to spray anything unless it came with a sprayer.
Thanks a lot

Cody

You wont be able to find one.

Professional polyuread bed liners like linex and rhino are 2 part systems that cure almost imediately once mixed. The gunthey use is quite a complex one that mixes the 2 parts while shooting them.

Anything you find in the aftermarket like hurculiner will be a 1 part systsem.

Not nearly as good.

We have a formula for a single system bed liner that blows everything else on the market away, but when compared to a real 2 part system it is no where close.That is why we have not brought our bed liner to market.

Second Skin is know for having the best products around. To come out with the best single component bed liner would be cool, but soon as it would be compared to Inyati, we would be murdered...

ANT

 

[Rudy 10+ year member]

You wont be able to find one.
Professional polyuread bed liners like linex and rhino are 2 part systems that cure almost imediately once mixed. The gunthey use is quite a complex one that mixes the 2 parts while shooting them.

Anything you find in the aftermarket like hurculiner will be a 1 part systsem.

Not nearly as good.

We have a formula for a single system bed liner that blows everything else on the market away, but when compared to a real 2 part system it is no where close.That is why we have not brought our bed liner to market.

Second Skin is know for having the best products around. To come out with the best single component bed liner would be cool, but soon as it would be compared to Inyati, we would be murdered...

ANT

good info.

 

[skydeaner 10+ year member]

Edead no longer has ANY asphault in it. Jesus get your facts straight. They only drawback that some people see is that it just has mylar on top and not thick/stiff aluminum which makes the constrained layer effect from multiple layers not quite as effective. The cost clearly outweighs this drawback.

 

[Rudy 10+ year member]

Edead no longer has ANY asphault in it. Jesus get your facts straight. They only drawback that some people see is that it just has mylar on top and not thick/stiff aluminum which makes the constrained layer effect from multiple layers not quite as effective. The cost clearly outweighs this drawback.

I disagree. Constrained layer damping has nothing to do with multiple layers - it is a critical component of vibration damping that relies on the stresses between the adhesive and the foil. No foil = no CLVED. You'll need multiple layers of a Mylar faced material to equal the performance of a single layer of a foil faced product. Extra layers eliminates the cost savings and increases the work required and the weight added for no good reason. Price/ft² is amueaningless metric for sound deadener.

eDead v1² is the first butyl mat to have a significant number of reported adhesion failures.

 

[USCFAN 10+ year member]

I like Dynamat Extreme. You can get 36sq/ft for $120 shipped at amazon.