****, sony

in a car/road noisy environment, 64kbps is good enuf for many songs that are somewhat vocal centric and dont have that many fine instrumental sounds...

the point of this thread is not about 64kbps, it is about some lousy limitation in sony's design which you can easily hit, say at 128 kbps, you have lots of 1 min tracks, and with a 2 deep folder structure, the player would end up handling only about 220 of those tracks on a cd, though the cd contains 600 of such songs....

it is like expecting a certain number of people in party, and not being able to handle more people because of all things you did not have some extra paper plates!

 
in a car/road noisy environment, 64kbps is good enuf for many songs that are somewhat vocal centric and dont have that many fine instrumental sounds...
the point of this thread is not about 64kbps, it is about some lousy limitation in sony's design which you can easily hit, say at 128 kbps, you have lots of 1 min tracks, and with a 2 deep folder structure, the player would end up handling only about 220 of those tracks on a cd, though the cd contains 600 of such songs....

it is like expecting a certain number of people in party, and not being able to handle more people because of all things you did not have some extra paper plates!
we get what you're saying, it sucks that cd player doesnt do what you want it to do. sounds like you need a new one if thats what you're after.

what we're sayin is that 64kbps is not even close to being good enough for a car environment. granted, the worse your speakers are, the harder it is to hear a difference. i dont know, maybe on some 20 yr old blown stock speakers, it sounds fine to you, but the fact of the matter is anyone with an upgraded system, which is going to be basically anyone on this site is going to hear the low quality in something with that low of a bitrate.

you can think what you want, tell us we're anal retentive audiophiles and that its all in our heads, but if i sat you in my truck, had 2 versions of the same song, 64k and 196k (which isnt even as high a quality as i normally like) played them back to back, you'd hear a massive difference you wouldnt be able to deny.

 
I bought a sony gtx 210 like 5 years ago before i knew anything about car audio, and had it installed at CC. Not too long ago i passed it down to my little brother, and that mofo is still kicking. Plays mp3 cds like a charm, but ive never used a cd with more than 300 songs, because at that rate theyd have to be like 2 megs a piece, and mine are atleast 5-6 megs each //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 
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