so the price of gas keeps on goin up for some reason

[n2audio 5,000+ posts]

my personal thoughts on oil demand.

I believe the Hydrogen is the answer, and I believe our scientists are sitting on it (persuaded by both the oil industry and the govt) because a massive changeover to hydrogen and the collapse of the oil market would absolutely destroy the global economy, the balance of power and a number of other things.

but that's just me.

 

[speedfreak28 10+ year member]

my personal thoughts on oil demand.
I believe the Hydrogen is the answer, and I believe our scientists are sitting on it (persuaded by both the oil industry and the govt) because a massive changeover to hydrogen and the collapse of the oil market would absolutely destroy the global economy, the balance of power and a number of other things.

but that's just me.

its obvious this country would benifit from the use of alternate fuels but this countries politicians are financed by big oil.

 

[jdc753 10+ year member]

When i started my business in 2001, diesel was 85 cents a gallon, now its 4.00, i get a fuel surcharge in most accounts of 28 cents a gallon. I still lose over 600 a week profit because of gas prices.

its pretty ridiculous, specially when diesel is cheaper to make from crude, just not many refineries making it. Back when Diesel was 85 cents a gallon I bet regular unleaded was about 92 a gallon or so. Diesel used to always be cheaper that regular unleaded, now its a $1 a gallon more than unleaded //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/verymad.gif.3f39c5c2fd57527b671fad3efdfac756.gif Trucking companies are going bankrupt already as it is even with fuel surcharges, some of them I don't know how they can stay in business shipping the nations goods all over the country. Everything you buy comes by truck.

 

[MikeyB 5,000+ posts]

I hate American Politics, die all you dirty political bastards, DIE!!!!

This message is aimed directly to those who hold office

 

[n2audio 5,000+ posts]

its obvious this country would benifit from the use of alternate fuels but this countries politicians are financed by big oil.

sure, but it runs way WAY deeper than that.

besides - in some small way all of us are fincanced by big oil -- wanna take a stab at what the oil industry as a whole pays in income taxes every year??

FWIW --

crude down almost $2 today //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

unleaded down $0.03

 

[speedfreak28 10+ year member]

its pretty ridiculous, specially when diesel is cheaper to make from crude, just not many refineries making it. Back when Diesel was 85 cents a gallon I bet regular unleaded was about 92 a gallon or so. Diesel used to always be cheaper that regular unleaded, now its a $1 a gallon more than unleaded //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/verymad.gif.3f39c5c2fd57527b671fad3efdfac756.gif Trucking companies are going bankrupt already as it is even with fuel surcharges, some of them I don't know how they can stay in business shipping the nations goods all over the country. Everything you buy comes by truck.

yea, a couple guys i know alreaady went under, thankfully most of the work i do is through pharmaceutical companies, that works not goin anywhere in this overmedicated country.

 

[seedubs1 10+ year member]

my personal thoughts on oil demand.
I believe the Hydrogen is the answer, and I believe our scientists are sitting on it (persuaded by both the oil industry and the govt) because a massive changeover to hydrogen and the collapse of the oil market would absolutely destroy the global economy, the balance of power and a number of other things.

but that's just me.

Extracting Hydrogen is a very energy intensive process though. And a lot of places are still burning coal in order to get the energy needed to extract hydrogen. Right now, hydrogen is still limited by the necessity of burning fossil fuels to obtain it.

That is why hydrogen will not work right now.

 

[jdc753 10+ year member]

yea, a couple guys i know alreaady went under, thankfully most of the work i do is through pharmaceutical companies, that works not goin anywhere in this overmedicated country.

Ain't that the truth, sometimes I think I am the only person who is not poppin pills of some kind. Reminds me of a little something too...

"Calling an Illegal Immigrant an undocumented alien is like calling a drug dealer an unlicensed pharmacist." //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[82 cutlass 10+ year member]

Sadly truth such as this never makes mainstream media, just gets pushed the way side for stories on hybrids or ever rising fuel costs, or casualties of war. Seems nobody likes a simple solution. Anyone against these drilling sites shouldn't be complaining about gas prices and either put up or shut up about em. As usual Chinese strike again, purchase nearly all the worlds steel driving up steel costs and now their oil consumption has lately skyrocketed as well.


As much as I am a Ford fan the GM 3.8L v-6 was a good motor in many of its applications. Can be pretty peppy too specially when supercharged (GTP, SSEI) and not too shabby in NA versions either. Not 100% sure but my friend had a Corsica with a 3.8L and 5-speed, was a nice little car and the stick made it much more enjoyable to drive.

Gm never made a corsica with a 3.8 liter . It probably had a 2.8 liter .

The 3.8 liter is gm's best motor besides the small block

 

[n2audio 5,000+ posts]

Extracting Hydrogen is a very energy intensive process though. And a lot of places are still burning coal in order to get the energy needed to extract hydrogen. Right now, hydrogen is still limited by the necessity of burning fossil fuels to obtain it.
That is why hydrogen will not work right now.

it can also be produced using wind energy. Not sure if you've been through KS lately, but wind farms are going up like it's a dying fad.

 

[quackhead 10+ year member]

People all around the world want to live like we do...live their dreams out in nice homes and nice cars..a good job..yada yada. I think some are finally seeing the light as to what they have missed out on and what they are going to miss out on. The oil production in the US peaked in the 1970's ie. demand vs. available proven reserves. We have no new reserves...not here or anywhere else in the world.

The Saudi's have had the easiest and cheapest oil to recover for recent decades, Right now, they have to inject 1/2 a barrel of water into their oilfields to recover 1 barrel of oil. This is becoming expensive and the primary indicator that their oilfields have peaked, in other words, their production is declining at a rapidly rising rate.

The hottest thing happening right now is the oil sands in Alberta, Canada. The price of oil is just beginning to make it profitable to extract the bitumen from the sands there.

How many of you beleive the 1200 drilling rigs operating in the US are drilling for oil?? I know of none. Natural Gas is what our oil companies are getting rich on. For example, the well I am testing as I write this is producing 4,500,000 cubic feet of natural gas per day at a price of $10 per 1000 cubic feet. = $45,000/day in gas sales and 25 barrels of oil per day @ $108 = $2700/day. Oil is just a bonus to these people.

What are you going to trade with in 10 years when there is major oil shortages and our fiat dollar has crashed and your kids are hungry? Did you know that for every dollar printed , we have to pay that dollar back with intrest? This is where your fed income tax $ goes. The fed reserve bank is no more federal than federal express. This is a privately owned company who prints our money and is owned by mostly Europeans. google the shit if you doubt me.

Our forefathers knew what Europe would do to the US if we did not follow the Constitution. They warned us of the horrors they left to come here. We were specifically warned to use silver and gold as our currencies to avoid the intrest and corporations that follow a privately owned central banking system.

I am tired...yall go buy a six pack and sit down to your fav sitcom jus like thay want you to and forget about whats really going on in the world.

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

People all around the world want to live like we do...live their dreams out in nice homes and nice cars..a good job..yada yada. I think some are finally seeing the light as to what they have missed out on and what they are going to miss out on. The oil production in the US peaked in the 1970's ie. demand vs. available proven reserves. We have no new reserves...not here or anywhere else in the world. The Saudi's have had the easiest and cheapest oil to recover for recent decades, Right now, they have to inject 1/2 a barrel of water into their oilfields to recover 1 barrel of oil. This is becoming expensive and the primary indicator that their oilfields have peaked, in other words, their production is declining at a rapidly rising rate.

The hottest thing happening right now is the oil sands in Alberta, Canada. The price of oil is just beginning to make it profitable to extract the bitumen from the sands there.

How many of you beleive the 1200 drilling rigs operating in the US are drilling for oil?? I know of none. Natural Gas is what our oil companies are getting rich on. For example, the well I am testing as I write this is producing 4,500,000 cubic feet of natural gas per day at a price of $10 per 1000 cubic feet. = $45,000/day in gas sales and 25 barrels of oil per day @ $108 = $2700/day. Oil is just a bonus to these people.

What are you going to trade with in 10 years when there is major oil shortages and our fiat dollar has crashed and your kids are hungry? Did you know that for every dollar printed , we have to pay that dollar back with intrest? This is where your fed income tax $ goes. The fed reserve bank is no more federal than federal express. This is a privately owned company who prints our money and is owned by mostly Europeans. google the shit if you doubt me.

Our forefathers knew what Europe would do to the US if we did not follow the Constitution. They warned us of the horrors they left to come here. We were specifically warned to use silver and gold as our currencies to avoid the intrest and corporations that follow a privately owned central banking system.

I am tired...yall go buy a six pack and sit down to your fav sitcom jus like thay want you to and forget about whats really going on in the world.

I need to pay more attention to this world and either believe this story, orrrr I can just go back to watching my sitcom and have a beer? I will take the show and a beer, cause there is nothing little ole me could do anyway.

 

[quackhead 10+ year member]

I hope I am wrong about our economy in 10 years...But I can assure you this, oil prices will continue to rapidly skyrocket. We do not have the technology to keep up with the decline in "cheap oil" production. We have 2 building materials that I can think of...wood and oil. (whats your computer made of?)Exactly what we had 100 yrs ago. We use wood for decoration and to wipe our ***** with (the house building market is virtually nil right now)...and this is my speculation, but we are on the edge of a world war over what oil is known to be left available to maintain anything that resembles our current standards of living. Iran and Iraq are #'s 2 and 3 on the list of known proven reserves...We had to have Afghanistan to build a large pipeline from a couple of those "istan" countries above it to the persian gulf. We are literally fighting for the last few drops of cheap available oil.

So, I guess Ill take a couple of those rapidly depreciating $$ I got and buy me a new amp so I can drown my thoughts in some serious bass tunes....Hell, I cant afford to go nowhere, but I can jam at idle...lol.

What's 3 g's worth of stereo gonna be worth in 10 years??

too bad we dont know how to convert a sack of empty Dr.Pepper bottles back to a barrel of oil...we are ****ed.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

People all around the world want to live like we do...live their dreams out in nice homes and nice cars..a good job..yada yada. I think some are finally seeing the light as to what they have missed out on and what they are going to miss out on. The oil production in the US peaked in the 1970's ie. demand vs. available proven reserves. We have no new reserves...not here or anywhere else in the world. The Saudi's have had the easiest and cheapest oil to recover for recent decades, Right now, they have to inject 1/2 a barrel of water into their oilfields to recover 1 barrel of oil. This is becoming expensive and the primary indicator that their oilfields have peaked, in other words, their production is declining at a rapidly rising rate.

The hottest thing happening right now is the oil sands in Alberta, Canada. The price of oil is just beginning to make it profitable to extract the bitumen from the sands there.

How many of you beleive the 1200 drilling rigs operating in the US are drilling for oil?? I know of none. Natural Gas is what our oil companies are getting rich on. For example, the well I am testing as I write this is producing 4,500,000 cubic feet of natural gas per day at a price of $10 per 1000 cubic feet. = $45,000/day in gas sales and 25 barrels of oil per day @ $108 = $2700/day. Oil is just a bonus to these people.

What are you going to trade with in 10 years when there is major oil shortages and our fiat dollar has crashed and your kids are hungry? Did you know that for every dollar printed , we have to pay that dollar back with intrest? This is where your fed income tax $ goes. The fed reserve bank is no more federal than federal express. This is a privately owned company who prints our money and is owned by mostly Europeans. google the shit if you doubt me.

Our forefathers knew what Europe would do to the US if we did not follow the Constitution. They warned us of the horrors they left to come here. We were specifically warned to use silver and gold as our currencies to avoid the intrest and corporations that follow a privately owned central banking system.

I am tired...yall go buy a six pack and sit down to your fav sitcom jus like thay want you to and forget about whats really going on in the world.

You lost me when you stated there are no oil drilling rigs in this country. I have several, mere miles from my house.
Nuclear energy is the way of the future, we just need to stop fighting the inevitable or playing with gimmick ideas like wind power.

 

[youngcoke]

wind power is not bad