so the price of gas keeps on goin up for some reason

Pretty sure I typed it in plain english.. When you bought the tank, you KNEW it did not get good gas mileage, regardless of the price of gas at the time. It has ALWAYS cost you more to fill up.
When I put a small block in my s10, I didnt complain one bit about gas, and still wont because it was built for one purpose, and that is to have fun!
I'm not complaining about my gas mileage, I'm complaining about the insane increase in gas prices over the last 10 years...

10 years ago gas was 1/4 the priced it is now, even though the average family income hasn't changed a bit.

 
I enjoy driving and the feel/sound of any internal combustion engine whether it be gas or diesel (I'm a little biased towards diesel though) and can't think of any "efficient" vehicle that I could enjoy driving nearly as much. I will pay a slight premium to enjoy my time behind the wheel as it has been one of my biggest passions since I first turned a wheel back at 5 years old.

 
The dependence of developed countries on oil is insane, especially here in North America. Instead of moving away from the problem, we just keep complaining about the escalating costs of using it.

Wait until water becomes a problem......

 
I enjoy driving and the feel/sound of any internal combustion engine whether it be gas or diesel (I'm a little biased towards diesel though) and can't think of any "efficient" vehicle that I could enjoy driving nearly as much. I will pay a slight premium to enjoy my time behind the wheel as it has been one of my biggest passions since I first turned a wheel back at 5 years old.
I completely agree. But seems we can find a way to balance our fun and hobbies with responsible practice. Such as drive the cars that give the rush occasionally for fun, and for daily use drive something that is a bit more boring but realistic and sustainable.

 
I completely agree. But seems we can find a way to balance our fun and hobbies with responsible practice. Such as drive the cars that give the rush occasionally for fun, and for daily use drive something that is a bit more boring but realistic and sustainable.
I totally agree I wish I could find a nice solid car that will get 30 or so mpg with enough HP to safely merge onto the highway , then I would have a more enjoyable vehicle for weekends and sunny days. Sadly wish I could just get a bike as it would fill pretty much all constraints, but currently I am not able to.

 
Water wont ever be a problem. We can maake all the fresh water we want, from salt water... all it takes is lots of energy. In fact there has been much talk of fighting the illegal Mexican immigration problems by 'giving' Mexico the technology to build nuclear reactors for no other purpose than to change salt water into fresh, allowing them to turn their barren land into a fertile area (and thus keep them from wanting to come here). I didn't say it was a good plan, but it has been discussed. The point is, we can make fresh water.

We could also alleviate our dependence on middle eastern oil 100% (and thus remove ourselves from their politics, their wars and their plight), if we simply wanted to. You can thank the tree-huggers for our dependence on foreign oil. OMG we can't drill in Anwar, a few caribou might die. No, its much better to purchase our oil from foreign countries, thereby weakening the US dollar by sending vast amounts of money overseas (and to the middle east no less), and putting American citizens, people like you and me, in harm's way defending our foreign dependence. Yes that's right, in order to save off the possibility of *some* caribou dying when/if we drilled in Anwar, we'd rather send our sons and daughters to the middle east to die fighting over their oil. Clearly caribou come before people.

Or drilling off the coast of Florida... we cant put up any new oil rigs out there, fear of oil spills ruining the environment and all that. Smart to be prudent right? But oops, along comes Cuba and leases the rights to drill in their waters to China. So now we have a situation where we cannot drill offshore of Florida for fear of the environmental impact, but Chinese oil rigs will be popping up along our coast, within sight of shore, to drill OUR oil, only to refine it and sell it back to US. And, do you really think China will be concerned about the environmental impact in OUR waters? more so than we ourselves would have been? Nope, us American's with all our technology, all our environmental laws and safety nets in place, cannot drill for oil in our coastal waters anymore.... but the notoriously 'messy' and careless Chinese will be. I hope those of you who fight against drilling in Anwar, or off our coastlines, or who fight new nuclear power stations... I hope you are all happy with the results of your short-sightedness.

Long live freakishly absurd environmentalism I say.

 
One of my friends had a 1995 Buick LeSabre with the 3.8 V-6 that got 30 MPG on the highway. The LeSabre was the best-selling full-sized car in the US at the time. Between it's roominess, fuel economy and decent amount of power (I drove that friend to LA on a 900 mile each way trip, doing 80 MPH+ along I-5 with no effort), it was quite the car. GM should have put the hybrid tech into it to bring the city MPG's up from 18 to 27 and you would have the best of all worlds, a full-sized car that is safe, comfortable, decently powered and close to the fuel economy of a tiny car like an Aveo, which is good for 35 MPG on the highway. Giving up a tiny handful of MPG's for all the LeSabre and other GM full-sized cars brought to the table in goodness is a bargain, especially if most of your driving is on the highway.

Rick

 
i would also like for $50 to fill my tank up. i got happy when gas went down to $3.16 and it took $70 to fill up. but there's no use complaining about it, we need that ish regardless.
True, but on the light my car is still only $38 haha //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 
Water wont ever be a problem. We can maake all the fresh water we want, from salt water... all it takes is lots of energy. In fact there has been much talk of fighting the illegal Mexican immigration problems by 'giving' Mexico the technology to build nuclear reactors for no other purpose than to change salt water into fresh, allowing them to turn their barren land into a fertile area (and thus keep them from wanting to come here). I didn't say it was a good plan, but it has been discussed. The point is, we can make fresh water.
The US has been fighting to get our fresh water included in NAFTA for several years now; it was a major sore point for a little while. There is already a demand for it.

Desalination is expensive and currently impractical. Developing countries can't afford it and large continents can't do it over a wide territory. There are a lot of hurdles before we can consider world-wide desalination a reality.

 
Water wont ever be a problem. We can maake all the fresh water we want, from salt water... all it takes is lots of energy. In fact there has been much talk of fighting the illegal Mexican immigration problems by 'giving' Mexico the technology to build nuclear reactors for no other purpose than to change salt water into fresh, allowing them to turn their barren land into a fertile area (and thus keep them from wanting to come here). I didn't say it was a good plan, but it has been discussed. The point is, we can make fresh water.
We could also alleviate our dependence on middle eastern oil 100% (and thus remove ourselves from their politics, their wars and their plight), if we simply wanted to. You can thank the tree-huggers for our dependence on foreign oil. OMG we can't drill in Anwar, a few caribou might die. No, its much better to purchase our oil from foreign countries, thereby weakening the US dollar by sending vast amounts of money overseas (and to the middle east no less), and putting American citizens, people like you and me, in harm's way defending our foreign dependence. Yes that's right, in order to save off the possibility of *some* caribou dying when/if we drilled in Anwar, we'd rather send our sons and daughters to the middle east to die fighting over their oil. Clearly caribou come before people.

Or drilling off the coast of Florida... we cant put up any new oil rigs out there, fear of oil spills ruining the environment and all that. Smart to be prudent right? But oops, along comes Cuba and leases the rights to drill in their waters to China. So now we have a situation where we cannot drill offshore of Florida for fear of the environmental impact, but Chinese oil rigs will be popping up along our coast, within sight of shore, to drill OUR oil, only to refine it and sell it back to US. And, do you really think China will be concerned about the environmental impact in OUR waters? more so than we ourselves would have been? Nope, us American's with all our technology, all our environmental laws and safety nets in place, cannot drill for oil in our coastal waters anymore.... but the notoriously 'messy' and careless Chinese will be. I hope those of you who fight against drilling in Anwar, or off our coastlines, or who fight new nuclear power stations... I hope you are all happy with the results of your short-sightedness.

Long live freakishly absurd environmentalism I say.
Sadly truth such as this never makes mainstream media, just gets pushed the way side for stories on hybrids or ever rising fuel costs, or casualties of war. Seems nobody likes a simple solution. Anyone against these drilling sites shouldn't be complaining about gas prices and either put up or shut up about em. As usual Chinese strike again, purchase nearly all the worlds steel driving up steel costs and now their oil consumption has lately skyrocketed as well.

One of my friends had a 1995 Buick LeSabre with the 3.8 V-6 that got 30 MPG on the highway. The LeSabre was the best-selling full-sized car in the US at the time. Between it's roominess, fuel economy and decent amount of power (I drove that friend to LA on a 900 mile each way trip, doing 80 MPH+ along I-5 with no effort), it was quite the car. GM should have put the hybrid tech into it to bring the city MPG's up from 18 to 27 and you would have the best of all worlds, a full-sized car that is safe, comfortable, decently powered and close to the fuel economy of a tiny car like an Aveo, which is good for 35 MPG on the highway. Giving up a tiny handful of MPG's for all the LeSabre and other GM full-sized cars brought to the table in goodness is a bargain, especially if most of your driving is on the highway.
Rick
As much as I am a Ford fan the GM 3.8L v-6 was a good motor in many of its applications. Can be pretty peppy too specially when supercharged (GTP, SSEI) and not too shabby in NA versions either. Not 100% sure but my friend had a Corsica with a 3.8L and 5-speed, was a nice little car and the stick made it much more enjoyable to drive.

 
When i started my business in 2001, diesel was 85 cents a gallon, now its 4.00, i get a fuel surcharge in most accounts of 28 cents a gallon. I still lose over 600 a week profit because of gas prices.

 
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