She's finally dead

[jujumantb 10+ year member]

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I'd

it.

 

[Gauntlet 5,000+ posts]

I also feel this opens the gate to legalizing *******. First if you put it in writing that you would rather be dead than live with dimensia then you will be legally killed.
But what about those that are mentally ill? Being mentally ill can be worse than physical illness or disability so why no allow those that are mentally ill and depressed to commit *******.

That's a reach for the ages.

 

[joshpoints 10+ year member]

That's a reach for the ages.

The dutch government is headed in the direction of Euthanasia. Doctors will decide whether an infant should murdered, whether mentally handicapped should be murdered or whether the demented should be murdered.

 

[Gauntlet 5,000+ posts]

Great, so no decisions have been made in a country that's contemplating it, and we live in a country that isn't even doing that. It's not going to happen here. There will always be individual cases which bring the issue to the forefront, but in terms of a federal law being enacted to legalize ******* in cases of dementia or what have you, it won't happen.

 

[joshpoints 10+ year member]

Great, so no decisions have been made in a country that's contemplating it, and we live in a country that isn't even doing that. It's not going to happen here. There will always be individual cases which bring the issue to the forefront, but in terms of a federal law being enacted to legalize ******* in cases of dementia or what have you, it won't happen.

I disagree. I believe the day is getting closer. It won't be legalized in the next 5 years. But I believe we are getting close.

This type of thinking will lead down the path of legalization. Just open your mind why should someone that doesn't want to live depressed be forced to live with heavy depression? It's their life right? Why should someone that has said they don't want to live with dimensia have to live with it?

 

[Gauntlet 5,000+ posts]

They don't have to, they can still kill themselves by ******* on the end of a revolver.

 

[DBfan187 5,000+ posts]

lmao

 

[joshpoints 10+ year member]

They don't have to, they can still kill themselves by ******* on the end of a revolver.

Yes but once it is legalized and made okay the value of life will be diminished.

 

[acousticguitar 10+ year member]

I disagree. I believe the day is getting closer. It won't be legalized in the next 5 years. But I believe we are getting close.
This type of thinking will lead down the path of legalization. Just open your mind why should someone that doesn't want to live depressed be forced to live with heavy depression? It's their life right? Why should someone that has said they don't want to live with dimensia have to live with it?

i dont legalization happening in the near future, but we are definitely getting to that day... follow con law and you'll see what im talking about.

that being said, the first few pages were rather disturbing of this thread... the lack of sympathy or common sense that one should maybe stay quiet after someone's death is tragic.

 

[Gauntlet 5,000+ posts]

Yes but once it is legalized and made okay the value of life will be diminished.

For the sake of argument, let's just say it is legalized, it's very possible that it may decrease ******* rates. Sociological studies show that some people commit ******* as their final act of rebellion, where's the rebellion in abiding by the law? Furthermore, massive population growths coupled with millions of pieces of shit being out there diminish the value of life, not *******.

 

[Gauntlet 5,000+ posts]

And the Dutch government's laws on ******* aren't like "well, if you're depressed come here and we'll kill you." In order for it to be carried the patient must have made the request when they are of clear mind, with a lawyer and a witness to verify it, their disease must be incurable and consist of "unbearable" pain, and all medical options must be exhausted by at least 2 neutral parties before it can even be considered. Their government isn't making the decision for people like you think.

 

[joshpoints 10+ year member]

For the sake of argument, let's just say it is legalized, it's very possible that it may decrease ******* rates. Sociological studies show that some people commit ******* as their final act of rebellion, where's the rebellion is abiding by the law? Furthermore, massive population growths coupled with millions of pieces of shit being out there diminish the value of life, not *******.

The number of suicides per year would not fall if it were legalized. People that currently are unable to commit ******* because of the gruesomeness of it. Massive population growth is a whole separate topic. The last I heard a while back the US population growth was like that of a 3rd world country, mainly from immigration. I disagree with you.

 

[joshpoints 10+ year member]

And the Dutch government's laws on ******* aren't like "well, if you're depressed come here and we'll kill you." In order for it to be carried the patient must have made the request when they are of clear mind, with a lawyer and a witness to verify it, their disease must be incurable and consist of "unbearable" pain, and all medical options must be exhausted by at least 2 neutral parties before it can even be considered. Their government isn't making the decision for people like you think.

That's their current law. They are looking into expanding it to the conditions I listed. The expansion was what I was talking about.

 

[Gauntlet 5,000+ posts]

The number of suicides per year would not fall if it were legalized. People that currently are unable to commit ******* because of the gruesomeness of it. Massive population growth is a whole separate topic. The last I heard a while back the US population growth was like that of a 3rd world country, mainly from immigration. I disagree with you.

Nobody is unable to commit sucide, what the hell are you talking about? There are bottles of Advil and Jack Daniels around, guns are still being made, tall buildings still exist, you can still buy rat poison.

That's their current law. They are looking into expanding it to the conditions I listed. The expansion was what I was talking about.

Talk to me when they amend the law...actually don't even bother, because my answer will be "good, more people that wanted to die are dead."

 

[joshpoints 10+ year member]

Nobody is unable to commit sucide, what the hell are you talking about? There are bottles of Advil and Jack Daniels around, guns are still being made, tall buildings still exist, you can still buy rat poison.


Talk to me when they amend the law...actually don't even bother, because my answer will be "good, more people that wanted to die are dead."

Yes some people are. There are people that aren't willing to go through the pain of taking down a bottle of advil. They would rather go through a peaceful injection where they're here one minute and gone the next.

Ideologically we differ. I find life precious where you don't.