RIP 15" btl

[hazardous0388 10+ year member]

I had this happen on a Type-E long ago. I looked at it, and it seemed shorter and had a black tint/burn on the end of it. Turns out, the tinsel had popped on the previous owner. He clipped the end of the tinsel off and soldered it back on himself and the black tint/burn marks on the tinsel were from the solder iron. Maybe this is your case as well?
-Bill-

First off no that is not the issue here.

Secondly, that really sucks man. I really hate to see shit like this happen, i never had anything wrong with the sub, obviously since this didnt happen to me. Let me know what FI says. Keep in touch.

 

[vasilios 10+ year member]

Then you are not familiar with the other school of thought on the subject. Imagine what that spider does... it flexes. Now imagine weaving a wire into this apparatus, that you want to flex... to flex linear and predicatably. Im sure you can see the complications this adds.

True and Ive heard this before, but then problems can arise like this one.

Ive only seen and heard of this problem with Scott's subs thus far, whether RE or FI.

I quite fancy the way IA does theirs.

 

[audiobahnuser18 5,000+ posts]

Man that does **** though dude . especially only having it for a week hope u get it all fixed and figured out though man.

 

[KnOkIn It 420 10+ year member]

I still dont understand why RE always insisted on running their leads this way and now Scott just does the same with FI..
Makes more sense to me to "direct connect terminate" them like DD, Audioque do or to weave them like so many others do.

DD and AQs are laminated into the spyder FTW.I think the main proplem with people snapping this lead is pretty simple,Ya'll are tuning far below the subs FS.

 

[IgnoreMe 5,000+ posts]

I had this happen on a Type-E long ago. I looked at it, and it seemed shorter and had a black tint/burn on the end of it. Turns out, the tinsel had popped on the previous owner. He clipped the end of the tinsel off and soldered it back on himself and the black tint/burn marks on the tinsel were from the solder iron. Maybe this is your case as well?
-Bill-

that is EXACTLY what it looks like. the tinsel that popped has a black burnt mark on it right where it broke. the other tinsels look like they've just been in heavy use and SEEM to be fine. i know this sub was ran off of 4kw by the first owner.

 

[Apocalypse boy 10+ year member]

No prob, but yea where the tinsels popped on mine, there were black burnt marks also. The other tinsels looked like they were in heavy use also but just not the same color as the ones that popped. Weird.

 

[lilmaniac2 5,000+ posts]

power doesnt kill speakers

amperage does //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[IgnoreMe 5,000+ posts]

First off no that is not the issue here.
Secondly, that really sucks man. I really hate to see shit like this happen, i never had anything wrong with the sub, obviously since this didnt happen to me. Let me know what FI says. Keep in touch.

not blaming you at all bro. just bad timing //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif i believe you only had like a 1.7kw amp on it in a smaller box too, so you were quite a ways under rms wattage on the amp, and after impedance rise, its less than that even.

it honestly does just seem like the tinsel is shorter on that lead. when i place it on top of the connection there is barley any slack on it. but i still cant get passed the fact that the **** tinsel does look burnt and i never smelled shit.

i set the gains with a 50hz tone at -6db. and i have never changed anything. i had my magnum on the same way, and the only way to get close to the output i wanted was to turn my sub control on my eclipse up to +3 (from 0) and sometimes to +6. +6 would give clip it slightly on some songs and i got it to stink up a bit. but with the BTL i had the output i wanted @ +0 on the sub control so i never even turned it up into the clip zone, not even once.

 

[IgnoreMe 5,000+ posts]

power doesnt kill speakersamperage does //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

but my coils are almost mint //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

 

[IgnoreMe 5,000+ posts]

DD and AQs are laminated into the spyder FTW.I think the main proplem with people snapping this lead is pretty simple,Ya'll are tuning far below the subs FS.

i never bottomed it out...

never reached the mechanical limits of the driver

 

[Chevyaudio 5,000+ posts]

My terminal just broke off...lol.

Tinsel didn't tear, the whole push terminal just broke.

 

[IgnoreMe 5,000+ posts]

My terminal just broke off...lol.
Tinsel didn't tear, the whole push terminal just broke.

lol. i just want my sub working again //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crying.gif.ec0ebefe590df0251476573bc49e46d8.gif

i love the btl

 

[UndercoverPunk 5,000+ posts]

It seems to me that the uber thick tinsels are more trouble than they're worth.

 

[IgnoreMe 5,000+ posts]

It seems to me that the uber thick tinsels are more trouble than they're worth.

x2!

i was thinking the same thing about 3 weeks ago when i heard of other people snapping leads before i bought the sub, and rubbing holes in the spider (this one is through the first spider)...why not offer the daily option as having smaller tinsels? i know i sure as hell dont need tinsels that will handle 10kw rms //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

 

[fbi90909 5,000+ posts]

imo that black burned area was not from someone else breaking the lead and re-soldering it. the soldering looks as from coming from the warehouse.

i'm pretty sure that 3kw would cause it to burn up like that.

when i snapped a tinsel on my XXX recently the lead did not fray up like that but in the location that it did snap it left burn marks and about a quater inch was missing from the tinsel lenght. when i had posted my thread on CSO another person displayed pics of 2 leads snapping on his MT. both were in center lenght area of the lead and where frayed and burned up as bad as yours is. iirc he too was running power around what you are feeding your btl.