they look ok man but i wouldn't pay $169 for sub that looks like ct trop u can get all day for $89, it maybe better have extra spider and all but u can get other subs for that.. i see where u are if shipping is an issue i understand but u can get skar 12" vvx for less than that or 600 rms wolfram ti for $89, each sundown e b stock $95, soundqubed hds3.1 1200rms sub $150 i think now..https://www.resilientsounds.com/
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