personally, my first system was two 12" pyle blue waves, and a 1500w pyle dryver amp. at the time, i didnt know DVC subs had to be wired a certain way, so each sub only had one voicecoil connected, and it was in a sealed box. it did get loud. average, 'everyday' system you see, or hear. but it didnt last long. even after i learned how to wire them correctly.. the amp ended up getting fried. thats when i found this website. started learning about other better products. from there, i bought a MAW12 and ran it off of a kicker 400.1 - i threw the pyles in my burn pit //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif if you have barely any money and want a little bump, id choose pyle over other brands. such as audiobahn (lower end models) sony, etc. just my 2 cents //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif