Profoundwill, return my items.

sounds like dude had a sub with noise and wanted to get rid of it. packed it shittily knowing it would be destroyed, hoping shipping company would eat it....
I don't believe that's the case. It would appear that he acquired the sub somehow, and never tested it. He just assumed from what the previous owner said that it was a D4 in mint condition. I'm guessing the mechanical noise is a shifted motor caused by impact from the poor packaging during shipping. Still his fault, obviously.

HOWEVER...in the eBay listing he says it's mint, but the pictures tell otherwise...That threw me off a little bit.

 
if you are selling an item, you are responsible for an accurate description. i stand by my opinion. too many shady folks out there bruh.

 
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in the ebay pic it looks like u can see the sharpie fillin the divot in on the bottom of the sub its off color.... anybody else see that?
I do. I questioned him about it, and he said that he had two subs, and that he sent the mint one, not the one in the picture. However, the sub that Geoff received has the same scuffing on the surround that the one in the picture does...

Again, I can provide PM proof of this.

 
Here's another thing...How does a sub get a pin-hole dent like that through shipping? I'm pretty sure that that's impossible. If it didn't happen through shipping, it obviously was there before it got shipped. And if it was there before it got shipped, that means it wasn't in mint condition as it was described.

 
I would be pissed as hell if a sub got shipped like that to me. I don't care if that's how the company sent it to me, I'd be pissed at them as well.

 
Let me chime in.
As you guys probably know, Geoff and I don't have a very good past. I still haven't forgiven him, because he has yet to apologize in person. I still talk with him here, treat him like a human being. But I'm no friend of his.

But like I would for anyone on this site, I stepped up to the plate when he asked for assistance claiming that he was probably going to get screwed/scammed. I took notes on everything he said, and then I PM's Profoundwill to get his side of the story. After hearing both, it was evidently Profoundwill's fault that he sent the wrong sub, poorly packaged, thus it was his responsibility to send all his stuff back to Geoff, pay for the big 3 kit, and pay for the sub to be shipped back to himself.

Things went alright, he finally complied and decided to do what I said was right. I am, after all, approaching this from an unbiased perspective that, if anything, would be more biased to the aid of Profoundwill given the bad past experience I had with Geoff. But then he decided that he couldn't ship first for Geoff. I began to explain Geoff's legitimacy, and I even suggested he use me as a middle-man so that I would hold Geoff's stuff until Geoff sent the sub out. The conversation ended abruptly, and here we are now.

We all know what needs to happen. Profoundwill needs to send Geoff the amp and speakers, pay for the big 3 kit and the shipping label for the sub, and Geoff needs to send the sub after everything arrives in the condition it left his house in. Until everything happens in that exact order, this thread will stay live. It's Profoundwill's fault, albeit an ignorant accident from the start, so there is no reason why Geoff should get burned from this.

Profoundwill, it didn't have to come to this. I know that you never meant for this to happen. I also know why you didn't want the sub back, since now you will be set back shipping for your sub, the amp/speakers, and you will have a beat up sub with mechanical noise to fix. You screwed yourself over on this one, and whether or not you meant it doesn't change the fact that it is your responsibility to consume the consequences of your actions. What you did by arguing with Geoff and I over it is now also added a ruined reputation on the leading car audio website to the plate. It will not be easy, if even impossible to regain legitimacy here. If you are a good guy though, which I know you are, you will do what's right, put the past behind you, and start over fresh.

It's a sad situation, really. I'm sorry that you are now out probably over $100, and will have a nearly blown sub. I'm also sorry that Geoff had to be put through this right before the competition that he missed out on last year for a similar reason iirc. This whole situation would have turned out a whole lot better if you wouldn't have argued and made excuses.
why are you even getting int he middle of other peoples transactions? Just leave it alone.. put your .02 and move on.. let the guys and the mods sort it out

 
why are you even getting int he middle of other peoples transactions? Just leave it alone.. put your .02 and move on.. let the guys and the mods sort it out
Because Geoff requested my assistance, and I'm not going to just sit back and watch someone get screwed/scammed. Two wrongs don't make a right, so regardless of my past issues with Geoff, he didn't deserve for this to happen to him.

 
why are you even getting int he middle of other peoples transactions? Just leave it alone.. put your .02 and move on.. let the guys and the mods sort it out
I do believe that if you got scammed on here and someone tried to help you out you wouldn't have the same attitude.

 
Agree, lets stay out of it and let them work it out. No need for a peanut gallery here although no matter what its going to happen anyway.

 
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