Problem hitting higher frequency bass

[capsilon]

I have an Audiobahn A8000T and a set of Kicker 12's.

On a lot of music it sounds like the subs just aren't hitting the higher range bass frequencies so many tracks are sounding a little "busted."

I have the LPH on the sub set to 120hz but it still seems like there's a lot of bass that's being missed out on.

I already did several searches on this problem in the forums so if I missed a thread that already covered this I apologize.

Thanks,

- cap

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[andy1234 10+ year member]

what do you have hte other speakers crossed at? if you have em crossed lower than the suybs say 100 you can cause some cancelation

 

[capsilon]

By other speakers I assume you mean the components and such?

I believe they're at 50hz, maybe 80hz. I have an HPF on my deck that I use to control the other speakers. I don't have any sort of external crossover or anything (as of yet.)

Thanks,

- cap

 

[GCAdidas13 10+ year member]

Well if you're sure you've heard this "higher bass" from your setup before, you might have cancellation problems.

If you've never heard "higher bass" - i like to call it midbass. . . like say tones between 60 and 200hz. . . you have a lack of midbass. Try to fool with EQ or maybe consider midbass elements such as the Koda 6.5 or 8, XXX 6.5, Extremis 6.5, and many many others.

GL

 

[req 5,000+ posts]

you definatly dont have midbass. subs are NOT meant to play those frequecnies. and most coaxial and compoent systems arent eaither.

dedicated midbass is my prefrence. along with an active xover setup.

 

[GCAdidas13 10+ year member]

you definatly dont have midbass. subs are NOT meant to play those frequecnies. and most coaxial and compoent systems arent eaither.
dedicated midbass is my prefrence. along with an active xover setup.

active xover setup goes unsaid when dedicated midbass is brought up //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

well i have a active/passive hybrid. active for the koda, and passive for the DLS

 

[capsilon]

Thanks everyone.

I appreciate the assistance. I'll check into that when I get my new components setup and make sure I can get something to moves into the 200hz range.

Thanks,

- cap

 

[GCAdidas13 10+ year member]

well to be honest... i think what you should do is get a tone generator and test out certain tones on your computer to get a general knowledge of where frequencies sit on the bandwidth. I think you'll notice that 200hz is a really high bass tone, if that. I think you should look more into the 60-80hz area... but check around... you probably will want more opinions.

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

you definatly dont have midbass. subs are NOT meant to play those frequecnies. and most coaxial and compoent systems arent eaither.

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Every comp set I've had goes down to atleast 63hz strong. My current 6.5's actually sound best crossed @ 52hz w/ 12db/oct slope.

 

[GCAdidas13 10+ year member]

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Every comp set I've had goes down to atleast 63hz strong. My current 6.5's actually sound best crossed @ 52hz w/ 12db/oct slope.

You also are a SQ guy that would rather AP his comps and listen at half their potential volume.

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

You also are a SQ guy that would rather AP his comps and listen at half their potential volume.

You have apparently never listened to my vehicles, and have no idea WTF you are talking about.

 

[req 5,000+ posts]

You have apparently never listened to my vehicles, and have no idea WTF you are talking about.

im not saying that they CANT do it, but they would rather not in most cases. thats why they are called midrange speakers //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

but like i said - thats my oppinion. and you dont have to listen to me.

 

[GCAdidas13 10+ year member]

ehehehe i wasnt trying to offend Squeak!

but in all honesty, you can't gain any volume if you cross higher? no low end distortion?

awesome man //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

im not saying that they CANT do it, but they would rather not in most cases. thats why they are called midrange speakers //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

Um, actually they are called midwoofers //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif And yes, they are more than capable of handling midbass duties.

Sorry req, but it is simply wrong to state or imply that the mids in a comp set are not capable of adequately producing the midbass frequencies.