Premier Amplifier Sale @ TheZeb.com

[musicman 10+ year member]

Hi jmac

u know where I could get that 720 new for a good price.

 

[Larrydehp920r]

Originally posted by Mark_ab The features of the JL are also superior, as far as accuracy is concerned.

I disagree, JL was one of the other brands that I was considering when choosing amps a year ago. And after comparing price, features, and power ratings I realized that the Premier had ALL the features I would ever need. The sound quality is excellent on the Premier amps. There was no way I could justify paying that much more for a JL amp that offered no more in return. And as far as accuracy is concerned, a clean amp is an accurate amp.

Just my opinion.

Larry

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[musicman 10+ year member]

Hey larry

how do the premier's compare with other amps that you've had as far as sq goes.

 

[Larrydehp920r]

Originally posted by Jmac Every place I see, the X720 is expensive, unfortunately. I so wish thezeb.com carried them for their sale that's on right now, but they don't.

 

The lowest I've seen them (other than eBay) is $335 + shipping from etronics.com and $379 shipped from onlinecarstereo.com ...

How is 335+shipping even remotely considered "expensive" for such a clean amp. The 720 is worth all of that and then some. Those originally retailed for around 550. 335 is nothing if you ask me.

Secondly, the main reason the Zeb doesn't include those in their sale is probably because Pioneer is no longer making those amps and they sold out of what they have in stock. I've looked in many places and can't find any more 720's at all. They are showing up on ebay because a few people still have a few floating around. It's a shame but for some reason Pioneer decided to stop making Premier amps. What a shame.

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[Larrydehp920r]

Originally posted by Jmac The lowest I've seen them underrated is 70%. However, most birthsheets I've seen are in the range of 100-125% underrated ... I saw one that was a little under 140% underrated.

 

 

 

The Premier amps are NOT...........I REPEAT..............NOT NOT NOT under rated. On the birthsheets where it says "rated" power that is the RMS rating or continuous output.

 

On the birthsheets where it says "actual" power that is the PEAK rating of the amp.

 

Larry

 

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[musicman 10+ year member]

Originally posted by Larrydehp920r How is 335+shipping even remotely considered "expensive" for such a clean amp. The 720 is worth all of that and then some. Those originally retailed for around 550. 335 is nothing if you ask me.

 

Secondly, the main reason the Zeb doesn't include those in their sale is probably because Pioneer is no longer making those amps and they sold out of what they have in stock. I've looked in many places and can't find any more 720's at all. They are showing up on ebay because a few people still have a few floating around. It's a shame but for some reason Pioneer decided to stop making Premier amps. What a shame.

 

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Hey larry

how do the premier's compare with other amps that you've had as far as sq goes.

 

[Larrydehp920r]

Originally posted by musicman Hey larry

 

how do the premier's compare with other amps that you've had as far as sq goes.

Up there at the top. I originally bought the Premier amps because their affordability. Needless to say I was very surprised at their cleanliness and nice features. I had Rockford amps, older Pioneer amps, and I once tried a PPI amp and none of them had sound quality of the Premier amps. I even converted one of my friends from Kicker amps to Premier amps and he can't believe how much money he could have saved if he would have tried Premier first.

Larry

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[musicman 10+ year member]

thanks larry, great info

 

[musicman 10+ year member]

why do the premier amps have such strange power ratings? It does 400x1 at 4ohm but has a max of 750?

 

[musicman 10+ year member]

can the x340 run 4 speakers that do about 50-70 rms?

 

[Larrydehp920r]

Originally posted by musicman why do the premier amps have such strange power ratings? It does 400x1 at 4ohm but has a max of 750?

Its not strange....its just how they word it that seems strange. They have an RMS and PEAK rating. The main difference on the Premier amps is that they do a hands on actual test on the peak rating.

Larry

 

[Larrydehp920r]

Originally posted by musicman can the x340 run 4 speakers that do about 50-70 rms?

I would have to say yes. I run MTX 5000 components and they are recommended for 50+ watts rms. The 340's put out 37.5 watts rms and when I used to run my fronts and rears off of 1 340 I had no problems with clipping. It sounded very very clean. I only switched because I decided to go with a 340 for each sub I'm running now.

I don't think you'd have any problems with that.

Larry

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[Mac11 10+ year member]

ya think i could run a 200RMS sub off an x220 @ 4 ohms?

 

[Larrydehp920r]

Originally posted by ElementalG20 What are the real power output specs on each modle of the premiers? I know somebody looking to start a nice new system, and these could work for them. But I need to know the real power specs.

What do you mean by REAL power specs.???

Vistit the pioneer website and look for these models.

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com

PRS-X220, PRS-X320, PRS-X340, PRS-X720

The specs on this website will tell you the RMS ratings for these amps. When you buy the amp and look at the birthsheet it will tell you that and the PEAK ratings which were tested on the bench and handwritten on the birthsheet by the technician that did the test. The myth on these amps is that they are under rated but they are not. Everyone is just misinterpreting the birthsheet.

Larry

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[musicman 10+ year member]

so does anyone know for sure if the power ratings are rms or maximum?