Please help! Polk MM6501 or Hertz ESK165 for the front?

[SRim23 5,000+ posts]

if i recall the momo amp is made with those comps in mind. i think you can run them active off that amp without the passive xovers.
whether itll sound anybetter i dont know.

and dont be sorry, thats why were here.

nevermind... it was the old momo amps that had that option not the new ones.

 

[okiedokie 10+ year member]

Hey Mokie , that earthquake amp will br fine for your needs.

I'm tring to understand what your'e really tring achieve!

1) i would replace those polk's out for those Hertz, which i think the Hertz can & will sound better then the lower end polk's.

2) deadening your doors & car will hep with acoustics in the car.

3) since you have so many toys to play with i would focus on your front stage.

4) it sounds like you are looking more for a three way combo.

5) if you can go active you'll have more control for what you'll looking.

so some guy built the bandpass for you???

can you take your system back to this guy for help???

 

[shahir 10+ year member]

deadening is another key area...

 

[Extreme SE-R 10+ year member]

Hey Mokie , that earthquake amp will br fine for your needs.I'm tring to understand what your'e really tring achieve!

1) i would replace those polk's out for those Hertz, which i think the Hertz can & will sound better then the lower end polk's.

2) deadening your doors & car will hep with acoustics in the car.

3) since you have so many toys to play with i would focus on your front stage.

4) it sounds like you are looking more for a three way combo.

5) if you can go active you'll have more control for what you'll looking.

so some guy built the bandpass for you???

can you take your system back to this guy for help???

IDK about replacing the polks..i've had the MOMO MMC6500's for about 4yrs now...im powering then with my 1yr old Elemental Design Nine.5 amp the momos are getting about 130-140RMS@13.3V me and asad spent hrs after hrs comparing my momos vs his old Hi Energys they sound about the same..(conclusion) the hi-energy tweeter has more detail but the vocal on the momo's is a lil bit better. the tweeter is a bit harsh..but after some adjustments its not that bad. I wouldn't compare the ESk to the MM!

u got the newer mm6501.they should be even better. The Momo line was underrated cause of the rice momo grill! i guess audio magazines nvr took then seriously

Sound deadening..made a big difference on the mid bass. I used Dynomat extreme. now i have to go back and add more cause i was being cheap!!!..lol

after i powerd them with my nine.5 i realized how good the Momos were..i have it cut off at 40hz...cause they don't distort!!!! very smooth bass.

 

[okiedokie 10+ year member]

I have some old polk momo's which i think the upper midrange is nice smooth when xovered right, but my problem is with lower end of the midrange-midbass, I use them active & passive & i couldn't find a way to stop them from breaking up below 80hz, I would them over higher to get them to sound right.

After playing with raw-home drivers now my ears can tell what distortion or break up in a cone sounds like

I would think that Hertz would has have a snappier upper mid that the polks lacks.

 

[Mokie]

Thanks gents for sharing your knowledge. Dampening was the first thing I did when I bought the car, before I even thought about replacing the stock Bose system. Heat was coming through the floor for some reason so I pulled the interior and the door panel and went to home depot and bought a few rolls of these:

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&productId=100028603

It's much cheaper than Dynamat and works extremely well. The aluminum keeps the car cool too. I have nothing against dynamat, but it's just too expensive for just some rubber and I'd rather save the money for additional toys.

This is what I'm doing now: Leaving the MM/Kicker 3 way up front and the break in the ESK woofer in the rear and using the tweeters up front for image enhancement since they're really small and the sound is soft. I also got a Pioneer DEQ7600 and it made a huge difference. The thing that was missing previously was not the mids, but imaging. By using the seating position and fine tuning it with the balance and fader, I was able to feel like I'm in the middle of everything. Thank you all for helping me. You are the BEST!!!