Please help me before I throw this mid out the window

[tsenfw 10+ year member]

PROBLEM: Right pioneer rev mid keeps cutting out and going dead after high volume.

Tracked it down to the positive tinsel lead. For some reason there was a connectivity issue where the tinsel connects to the terminal. From the factory they come covered with this liquid electrical tape or something. I burned that off with a soldering iron and resoldered the tinsel.

THIS THING KEEPS FVCKING CUTTING OUT! I've tried resoldering it many different times and many different ways. It'll play fine till I get it back in but when I really turn up the volume it'll stop playing till I resolder. Resoldering that joint always brings it right back. I'm pretty sure it's where the tinsel connects to the terminal because if I press down or around with a screwdriver you can hear the speaker come on and off like a loose tinsel lead.

Any ideas? This thing is driving me mad, I'm about to buy mids just so I don't have to deal with this one. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

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[dragnix 5,000+ posts]

throw it my way?

 

[DaGh0st 5,000+ posts]

warranty?

 

[dragnix 5,000+ posts]

perhaps you could reconnect the tinsel lead with liquid tape and see how that would work

 

[tsenfw 10+ year member]

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SHIZZZZ GOOD IDEA! I'll have to see if that works.

 

[tsenfw 10+ year member]

throw it my way?

I just might

 

[TurdFergueson2 5,000+ posts]

PROBLEM: Right pioneer rev mid keeps cutting out and going dead after high volume.
Tracked it down to the positive tinsel lead. For some reason there was a connectivity issue where the tinsel connects to the terminal. From the factory they come covered with this liquid electrical tape or something. I burned that off with a soldering iron and resoldered the tinsel.

THIS THING KEEPS FVCKING CUTTING OUT! I've tried resoldering it many different times and many different ways. It'll play fine till I get it back in but when I really turn up the volume it'll stop playing till I resolder. Resoldering that joint always brings it right back. I'm pretty sure it's where the tinsel connects to the terminal because if I press down or around with a screwdriver you can hear the speaker come on and off like a loose tinsel lead.

Any ideas? This thing is driving me mad, I'm about to buy mids just so I don't have to deal with this one. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

My shit was doing the same thing. Kept throwing my amp into protect. I thought the RCAs on my radio were bad. Pioneers too. And they are hard to get to in my car. You have to take the entire back seat off to get to them.

 

[dragnix 5,000+ posts]

try to see if your speaker wires are grounded out on the chassis anywhere?

 

[tsenfw 10+ year member]

My shit was doing the same thing. Kept throwing my amp into protect. I thought the RCAs on my radio were bad. Pioneers too. And they are hard to get to in my car. You have to take the entire back seat off to get to them.

I know it's that one mid from troubleshooting (all other speakers work, I'm active on a 4 channel amp + active deck).

It'll play fine right after I resolder the tinsel. In fact, when it is soldered you can move the tinsel around near the terminal and it will cut in and out.

 

[dumple 5,000+ posts]

try connecting the speaker wire right to the tinsel to see if the problem really is where the tinsel meets the joint

 

[tsenfw 10+ year member]

try connecting the speaker wire right to the tinsel to see if the problem really is where the tinsel meets the joint

Will try that if liquid electrical tape doesn't work. I think it might be a loose weave on the tinsel. It always works when i mess with the tinsel but it's very flaky.

 

[tsenfw 10+ year member]

perhaps you could reconnect the tinsel lead with liquid tape and see how that would work

Thought it was going to work! Resoldered best I could then the liquid electrical. Lasted about 20 min, crapped out at higher volume. I've run out of patience with this thing. You can have the mids if you pay shipping. I just a need a new set in there first.

Listening off one mid and two tweets blows! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

 

[kovemaster559 5,000+ posts]

PROBLEM: Right pioneer rev mid keeps cutting out and going dead after high volume.
Tracked it down to the positive tinsel lead. For some reason there was a connectivity issue where the tinsel connects to the terminal. From the factory they come covered with this liquid electrical tape or something. I burned that off with a soldering iron and resoldered the tinsel.

THIS THING KEEPS FVCKING CUTTING OUT! I've tried resoldering it many different times and many different ways. It'll play fine till I get it back in but when I really turn up the volume it'll stop playing till I resolder. Resoldering that joint always brings it right back. I'm pretty sure it's where the tinsel connects to the terminal because if I press down or around with a screwdriver you can hear the speaker come on and off like a loose tinsel lead.

Any ideas? This thing is driving me mad, I'm about to buy mids just so I don't have to deal with this one. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

nothing to do tear it apart and burn it then send to pioneer and say what a piece of shit they sell

 

[Audio Junkies 10+ year member]

Not sure if you have done this already, but switch the mids and put them on the opposite side they are right now just to confirm it is the speaker itself and not something else in the chain. I'd do this just to be 100% sure.

As for the soldering, clean the hell out of the area you are soldering with rubbing alcohol on a cotton ball or paper towel to remove any residue that might be mucking things up. You'd be surprised how bad some materials (melted plastic, adhesive, rubber, etc.) can screw up a solder joint. Clean up that solder tip with some sandpaper too. Also, be sure to use flux on both surfaces.

It sounds like something that can be easily fixed. Post up some pics of the area you are soldering just so we have a better idea as well.

 

[tsenfw 10+ year member]

Not sure if you have done this already, but switch the mids and put them on the opposite side they are right now just to confirm it is the speaker itself and not something else in the chain. I'd do this just to be 100% sure.
As for the soldering, clean the hell out of the area you are soldering with rubbing alcohol on a cotton ball or paper towel to remove any residue that might be mucking things up. You'd be surprised how bad some materials (melted plastic, adhesive, rubber, etc.) can screw up a solder joint. Clean up that solder tip with some sandpaper too. Also, be sure to use flux on both surfaces.

It sounds like something that can be easily fixed. Post up some pics of the area you are soldering just so we have a better idea as well.

Yes, have tried swapping them to eliminate other possibilities. Definitely a tinsel issue. Was going to try what you suggested with cleaning the contacts but now the other one is starting to cut in and out. Just fed up with these things. I'm just going to get some new mids. I hope it's a speaker issue causing these drivers to fail and not my JL 300/4 clipping them. I've been setting gains by ear, haven't noticed distortion and I really don't have money or time to find an oscilloscope.

I've read that the JL 300/4 benches around 90-95 watts rms, thought the revs would be able to handle that.