Pioneer TS-C720PRS

[blacksatsc2 10+ year member]

I'm considering picking these up. I have read nothing but good reviews but I'm curious about one thing. Their only "rated" at 50 watts RMS. Now I have heard that "ratings" are usually very inaccurate and many people tend to run 2 and r times the rated power and have no problems. I have a JL A4300 4 channel amp which is rated at 70x4 or 220x2 bridged. Should I run them at the 70x4? Or should I bridge the amp and run the 220x2 even though their "rated" at 50 Rms. Help me out please. Anyone who owns these speakers please tell me what you think. And I have a 2002 Saturn SC2. Will these fit?

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[kross 10+ year member]

They can handle up to 200 watt peaks. Set the gain on your amp to give a max of 200 watts, and that will be perfect.

Then, when you are running at full volume, the peaks in the music will hit that 200 watt mark, but the average output power will be much lower, probably lower than the 50 watts RMS they are rated for. Most music produced has a crest factor between 4 and 10, which means the peaks are between 4 and 10 times the average (RMS) power.

Hope this helps!

-- Kevin

 

[ls2poweredgoat 5,000+ posts]

I currently have these...and they are amazing. Excellent midbass, each midbass alone weighs 4.5 pounds (no kidding).

They are currently being powered by a JL 300/2, and they take every bit of it.

 

[blacksatsc2 10+ year member]

Ahhh ok thanks a lot guys. I think I have made my decision and will be getting these shortly. Anymore comments would be great.

 

[ls2poweredgoat 5,000+ posts]

Buy them, you won't regret it.

 

[blacksatsc2 10+ year member]

Buy them, you won't regret it.

Sweet, Im so looking forward to them. I've heard nothing but good things, and you can get them now from $225 to $250 so seems like a bargain to me.

 

[skinnymofo 10+ year member]

got mine for about 270 after shipping.

worth every cent.

 

[ChedNompton 10+ year member]

I'm running 300 a side, I wouldn't suggest this for long periods of time, as they do tend to get a little smelly. I would say they do very well with 200-250 watts a side. Any more questions, just ask.

Good luck,

Larson

 

[J31Rob 5,000+ posts]

They can handle up to 200 watt peaks. Set the gain on your amp to give a max of 200 watts, and that will be perfect.
Then, when you are running at full volume, the peaks in the music will hit that 200 watt mark, but the average output power will be much lower, probably lower than the 50 watts RMS they are rated for. Most music produced has a crest factor between 4 and 10, which means the peaks are between 4 and 10 times the average (RMS) power.

Hope this helps!

-- Kevin

what the fuck are you talking about.

you're saying they're rated for 50 rms, so give them 200.. w/nothing supporting that they'll handle it?

 

[kross 10+ year member]

Nothing supporting they'll handle it? The specs say they will. Do you not know the difference between average power and peak power? How do you have over 4600 posts on here and not know the difference? Do you spend all your time in the general forum posting about who's make-believe girlfriend is hotter?

 

[blacksatsc2 10+ year member]

I'm running 300 a side, I wouldn't suggest this for long periods of time, as they do tend to get a little smelly. I would say they do very well with 200-250 watts a side. Any more questions, just ask.Good luck,

Larson

Alright sounds good, I plan on bridgeing my amp than for 225x2. They should scream beautifully, what amp are you running?

 

[ChedNompton 10+ year member]

Alright sounds good, I plan on bridgeing my amp than for 225x2. They should scream beautifully, what amp are you running?

I'm running a JBL Px300.4 bridged. Gain set for 300 watts at 4 ohms (rated for 358 4 ohms). They seem to scream. Just watch out for the tweeter, as it tends to be a bit harsh to some people (which can be fixed with tweeter placement).

Larson

Edit: Are your doors deadened?

 

[blacksatsc2 10+ year member]

I'm running a JBL Px300.4 bridged. Gain set for 300 watts at 4 ohms (rated for 358 4 ohms). They seem to scream. Just watch out for the tweeter, as it tends to be a bit harsh to some people (which can be fixed with tweeter placement).Larson

Edit: Are your doors deadened?

Currently my doors are not deadened

 

[ChedNompton 10+ year member]

I would suggest deadening in the future (sounds like you are planning on it), but I'd suggest at least sealing the holes in the doors with some sheet metal, wood, or plastic when you get the speakers.

Larson

 

[blacksatsc2 10+ year member]

Alright so is everyone in aggreeance that 225x2 is a safe power to use with these?