Pioneer AVH-P8400BH

[calebkhill 10+ year member]

Interesting. Using a 0db 1khz sine wave on CD mine didn't clip at all. 50hz clipped at 39. Great HU!

Clearly heard my speakers distort horribly at 38. . think 50hz clipped at 39. This concerns me.

I clipped at 38 not 37 sorry about that

 

[neo_styles 10+ year member]

Just wanted to pop my head in here and let you know I haven't abandoned the thread quite yet, but I am test-driving the Eclipse CD7200mkii for a few months. It'll be interesting coming back to the 8400 as far as the interface is concerned, but on the SQ end, they're in totally different ballparks. So if someone wants to take the reigns on this one for a while (cough @calebkhill ; cough), be my guest.

 

[calebkhill 10+ year member]

but on the SQ end, they're in totally different ballparks.

Really, how so?

 

[neo_styles 10+ year member]

Really, how so?

For starters, the Eclipse has TA, 8-band PEQ with adjustable Q, and 8V preouts. Aside from that, the whole unit just has this feel to it that reminds me more of listening to vinyl at home. It's not as digital and all-forward like the 8400.

The 8400 does have, to its credit, a MUCH easier user interface. Just wish the SQ was on par with it. If pioneer could somehow manage to use the double din interface of the 8400 with the SQ awesomeness of this Eclipse or even the Pio P99RS, they'd have an absolute gold mine on their hands.

 

[calebkhill 10+ year member]

For starters, the Eclipse has TA, 8-band PEQ with adjustable Q, and 8V preouts. Aside from that, the whole unit just has this feel to it that reminds me more of listening to vinyl at home. It's not as digital and all-forward like the 8400.
The 8400 does have, to its credit, a MUCH easier user interface. Just wish the SQ was on par with it. If pioneer could somehow manage to use the double din interface of the 8400 with the SQ awesomeness of this Eclipse or even the Pio P99RS, they'd have an absolute gold mine on their hands.

Explain what PEQ and adjustable q are, I've been looking can't find an answer.

And I couldn't take this thread over I'm still learning myself.

 

[richericks 10+ year member]

Explain what PEQ and adjustable q are, I've been looking can't find an answer.
And I couldn't take this thread over I'm still learning myself.

Take a look at this tutorial from JL. They only focus on one frequency range, but it could be applied to any others offered in the EQ set.

JL PEQ

http://www.jlaudio.com/header/Support/Tutorials/Parametric+Equalizer/Tutorial%3A+Parametric+Equalizer/287545

 

[calebkhill 10+ year member]

[quote name='richericks']Take a look at this tutorial from JL. They only focus on one frequency range, but it could be applied to any others offered in the EQ set.

JL PEQ

JL Audio » header » Support » Tutorials » Tutorial: Parametric Equalizer[/QUOTE]

Nice man.I'll download the pdf and get more familiar.in the meantime, @neo_styles; or @richericks; if your up for it could you post a few pics or maybe a couple links to your or other units showing the the way the application is displayed on the unit?

I can see how this feature puts it ahead of the 8400 in tuning and sq.

 

[neo_styles 10+ year member]

Yeah, PEQ takes some getting used to. I'm not home right now so I really can't get you pictures, but here's my definition in a nutshell:

Where graphic EQ lets you make adjustments in level at a specific frequency, a PEQ (parametric) will allow you to change multiple frequencies within a particular band. The q is that bad that you pick. So if there's a whole region (say from 1k-2k) that needs to be cut, you can do so with one setting.

Here's a good link on learning how to use PEQ:

DIYMA Car Audio Forum - View Single Post - How to use a PEQ effectively?

 

[calebkhill 10+ year member]

Yeah, PEQ takes some getting used to. I'm not home right now so I really can't get you pictures, but here's my definition in a nutshell:
Where graphic EQ lets you make adjustments in level at a specific frequency, a PEQ (parametric) will allow you to change multiple frequencies within a particular band. The q is that bad that you pick. So if there's a whole region (say from 1k-2k) that needs to be cut, you can do so with one setting.

Here's a good link on learning how to use PEQ:

DIYMA Car Audio Forum - View Single Post - How to use a PEQ effectively?

I get the gist I'm gonna read up some.I'm interested my self. I just want to deer how it looks on the hu. I'll try and google stone pics but posting some shots would save an hour long search Lol. You know how google could be sometimes

 

[The_Grimy_One 10+ year member]

Some great specs for a DD! Nice!

 

[neo_styles 10+ year member]

Some great specs for a DD! Nice!

Whose specs? I'd say yours are pretty impressive if I don't say so myself (looking at your sig).

 

[neo_styles 10+ year member]

Here's an example of an eq curve with PEQ applied. You can see where the person adjusting has applied certain Qs. Some overlap, some are allowed to roll off.

 

[calebkhill 10+ year member]

Here's an example of an eq curve with PEQ applied. You can see where the person adjusting has applied certain Qs. Some overlap, some are allowed to roll off.

That's the key. Is the eclipse your testing a double din

 

[neo_styles 10+ year member]

That's the key. Is the eclipse your testing a double din

Sadly, no. Single DIN. Like I said earlier, I really am missing the ease of use of my 8400, but it's going to be really odd going back to a system with no TA. If I can keep call enough, I'll skip past the MS8 and snatch up a PS8 by the end of the year for my in-the-future Tahoe build.

 

[calebkhill 10+ year member]

Sadly, no. Single DIN. Like I said earlier, I really am missing the ease of use of my 8400, but it's going to be really odd going back to a system with no TA. If I can keep call enough, I'll skip past the MS8 and snatch up a PS8 by the end of the year for my in-the-future Tahoe build.

I hear you. Have you noticed a difference in you r sq between the two units