Pierce audio custom built?

[jonathan demuth]

my opponent has a pair of apxx running of 2 atomic 5000d at 18v.so i dont want that.

I need to beat that.

My first go was the soundstream xxx, but i chose the TSNS over it and was set on the TSNS until about last week when i found out they were too busy to eat.

If they could chime in now and say yeah they'll take my order ill be so happy.

Whats wrong with the guys at PAP?

Isnt the sub they told me about very similar to the TSNS?

NO it is not. pap has proven to be shady, have poor build quality, and generally shitty designs. the one you speak of is ok, stolen design though. I wouldnt support trash like that EVER. You ever seen there "build house" (ie woodshed) LOL

 

[jonathan demuth]

Can you not understand this? they are trash.

 

[krankster 10+ year member]

Well considering you're up against two 5k Zenon amps at 18v, you better hope you'e got similar power, which it seems you do.
Are you looking for loud to the ear, or loudest on a mic? I suggest, as it seems you've done, throwing up a serious box.

Electrical I guess you've got up to par

Deadening is the last main thing other than equalization - hope you're looking forward to that as well.

If you want, you can contact Steve. He can have two SuperHeavyweights on the way to you shortly, I'm sure, and they'll take some hellacious power and still play music decently well.

The TSNS is an UnGodly expensive woofer, but it's not a bad woofer by any means.

And PAP STOLE THE DESIGN to their big woofer.

loudest on ear and in your clothes.

the competition is severely lacking sq but he is shit loud above 50 hertz.

I hope to have some sq as well as to be louder but in the 35-45 hertz range.

PAP said they could build the subs with specs to match what i need so thats why they have caught me right now.

T3 audio hasnt returned my calls

And im thinking the superheavyweight is the same thing as an apxx?

 

[tommyk90 5,000+ posts]

loudest on ear and in your clothes.the competition is severely lacking sq but he is shit loud above 50 hertz.

I hope to have some sq as well as to be louder but in the 35-45 hertz range.

PAP said they could build the subs with specs to match what i need so thats why they have caught me right now.

T3 audio hasnt returned my calls

And im thinking the superheavyweight is the same thing as an apxx?

Companies like them will say whatever it takes to make a sale.

Will it live up to your expectations? I highly doubt it.

 

[TnT_Sounds 10+ year member]

Have you contacted ED Lester with T3?

He returns emails within in one day normaly

 

[krankster 10+ year member]

hmm i never knew this about PAP.

I emailed them already we organised pricing and payment options already, they said to begin call and leave a message and they will return the call.

Still waiting.

 

[PBateman 10+ year member]

I run 4 saz3000's on 1 sub for a 5 second burp. I've played music with it and i'll just say it was scary. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

 

[RAB 10+ year member]

thats y myself and andrew didnt get t3 subs they never get back at u

 

[TnT_Sounds 10+ year member]

PAP really isn't all that bad. I have ran their subs so I know they can take some abuse. I was able to run their newer wmd2 12s, actualy 6 of them, and they seemed to hold up just fine. Only flaw I saw in the woofer was the single spider setup and dustcap.

I mainly delt with paul and he is a very knowledgable guy. I know some local guys that also have dealt with PAP and have good experiance.

The main turnoff for me on them was their main person "lord baccus". He's not very knowledgable and yet they treat him well just because he's been with them since they started. But other than that, I say go for it and try it out. If you don't like it you can always sell it.

 

[jonathan demuth]

LOL. You are getting good info here, and ignoring it all. this is ridiculous. seriously, are you retarded?

 

[jonathan demuth]

PAP really isn't all that bad. I have ran their subs so I know they can take some abuse. I was able to run their newer wmd2 12s, actualy 6 of them, and they seemed to hold up just fine. Only flaw I saw in the woofer was the single spider setup and dustcap.
I mainly delt with paul and he is a very knowledgable guy. I know some local guys that also have dealt with PAP and have good experiance.

The main turnoff for me on them was their main person "lord baccus". He's not very knowledgable and yet they treat him well just because he's been with them since they started. But other than that, I say go for it and try it out. If you don't like it you can always sell it.

that single spider setup WILL fail, it will sag, and it will change the parameters.

 

[TnT_Sounds 10+ year member]

thats y myself and andrew didnt get t3 subs they never get back at u

That's odd. I know ever since Ed is the head internet guy, they have been on top of email replys and phone calls. Everytime I have called, i talk to either Ed or John.

 

[jonathan demuth]

someone calling himself ed lester lurks around here, but its not the real one.

 

[TnT_Sounds 10+ year member]

that single spider setup WILL fail, it will sag, and it will change the parameters.

That it does. I seen it happen first hand.

 

[MakeshiftAudio 10+ year member]

SHW does not equal APXX.

I would go with the SHWs personally. Though 7k for 40 seconds. Jesus almost anything would burn up. You realize that is 280,000J? Do you realize what 280kJ does to something light weight as a copper voice coil? A 4" voice would be able to take it better than a 3" voice coil for sure, but it better be at least 8 layer if you want to even attempt that. You would need to let it cool for longer, and possibly even supply some sort of active cooling if you want to let it cool down for 2 minutes. ie vacuum in the hole in the bottom plate, to rush air over the voice coil.