Pair of Kicker L7 12's vs Nighshade 18

[CMattox23 10+ year member]

lol I've learned that they like to help people around here a lot as well bro....but are you excited with every sentence you say? haha every one of your sentences end in a !

 

[superbang 10+ year member]

I know it can handle it but it sounds like crap! Ive seen it done!

I see. Well maybe I've just had bad luck. I had one 15" L7 on my mtx 1501d and the sub did not like the power at full tilt. back in the days I had two 12" L7 off one pb 3000d and they had so much fail in them. Solo X on the other hand loves my mm3000.

 

[hrtbrk1 5,000+ posts]

oh added info...the NS sounded great on all music //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif...and the regular suspension package on 3000wrms is louder than the super stiff on 3000wrms

 

[15nissen 10+ year member]

Never seen an L7 handle true 1500rms or more for 1 songs length. Shouldn't doubt something I haven't seen but I'll call BS till I see some proof.

Delvryboy, an old teammate had 15's, and 10's in different installs with a kicker 2500.1 on each, and sometimes on 16 volt.

I have personally seen plenty of people very successful in the lanes with the L7's.

Since then i have got out of competition's, but have seen PLENTY of proof of what they are capable off.

Most people forget, a sub is only as good is the install.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Between the above choices, the L7's should have the cone area and coil advantage.

 

[TheyCallMeKP 10+ year member]

Could you make it two 15" L7's?

 

[hrtbrk1 5,000+ posts]

Could you make it two 15" L7's?

are u the guy that i met with champboss

 

[mlstrass 5,000+ posts]

Delvryboy, an old teammate had 15's, and 10's in different installs with a kicker 2500.1 on each, and sometimes on 16 volt.
I have personally seen plenty of people very successful in the lanes with the L7's.

Since then i have got out of competition's, but have seen PLENTY of proof of what they are capable off.

Most people forget, a sub is only as good is the install.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Between the above choices, the L7's should have the cone area and coil advantage.

Gotta remember that in the lanes doing a burp is a LOT diff then daily pounding at full tilt.

Alex A has an impressive set up with L7's when he burps, but he has to dial them back down for music as they get stinky in a hurry.

 

[Chinbruiser 10+ year member]

It just a habit from texting man my bad.

 

[skinnymofo 10+ year member]

i would go with the 18 personally, you can shrink the box size for one getting trunk or whatever space you have being taken up back. it will look more impressive thats for sure, and it may sound better and may be louder. depending on what you port it at

 

[SomeGuyDude 10+ year member]

Never seen an L7 handle true 1500rms or more for 1 songs length. Shouldn't doubt something I haven't seen but I'll call BS till I see some proof.

I dunno about 1500, but if I'm remembering right that the JBL bp1200.1 goes around ~1400 RMS at 1ohm according to the birthsheet, I gave that to my 2004 L715 for probably three months before it finally blew, and that was with bass boost up a little too high and the gain setting completely wrong. I'd play that thing for easily an hour at a time when I was showing it off or just cruising around.

Maybe the current models are less sturdy, but the old one with the slate gray cone was a powerhouse.

 

[gunitsoldier25 10+ year member]

yeah i ran two L7's and they blew up on me right away, im sure the 18 would be better

 

[302yota 10+ year member]

i've done a build for one of my friends with an aq hdc318 in a f-150 crew cab, off of a hifonics 2000wt amp in 6.4cuft at 37hz, with about 1700wrms goin to it..(i currently on that setup now, for 400$)......and i also here recently did a build for a toyota xrunner, 2 12" L7's off of the same amp in 7.8 cuft at 33hz, with about 1600wrms goin to them......i would say that the AQ was a little louder, and sounded a lot better......don't get me wrong the L7's where loud and got stupid low and scored 145db on the meter...even though i never did meter the AQ, it still seemed louder to the ear.......

so i would say in the right install, the Nightshade 18 will be the better choice....b/c i've heared that the nightshades are even better than the hdc's...

 

[thericanballer 10+ year member]

i would go with the 18 if you have the space and power. i had the re mt 18 and im louder than my friends who have l7s. and im sure the nightshade is comparable to the re mt. also the l7s lower in rms when you port them so you cant push as much as you want. the nightshade is INSANELY loud and will take whatever you feed it. go with the 18 in my opinion. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[snb778 5,000+ posts]

ok.. wow.. nvmd, you go ahead and get the L7's if you think they'll be louder... i'll sit back here and //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif:laugh://content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif at your decision

12" L7's (we're not talkin 15's here people) on 1000+ RMS... make that 1500each daily to be fair... (cause that's what the Nightshade can do (3k)...

YEA RIGHT!!!... also, lets see those L7's slam around 30hz with that power on em.. POOF!

 

[Walled_Taurus 10+ year member]

Wow this thread seems to show that everyone that is dogging kicker prob had a bad install. I've had tons of kicker subs in the last couple years. Yes they are one of my favorite brands but, don't judge me for it. I have heard tons of setups with kicker in it that was weak and sounded like ***, and at the same time ive heard some that absolutely were ****ing ridiculous for what they consisted of. If you guys cant feed more than 1500 to an L7 with out popping it you must be clipping the shit out of it. I had a Kicker CVX 12 in a 2 cube SQ box tuned to 36hz with an AQ2200 on it at full power and did a 144.6 with it on the TL in the Trunk of a taurus. The new 08 L7s have stiffer spiders and the ability to handle 2k up to 3k as long as its un-clipped power.

Now i have not heard a nightshade yet so theres nothing to say that it wont sound good and get loud as ****. But if you have around 2.75 usable cubes(after sub, bracing, and vent displacement) to give each L7 12 and tune the box to around 34 to 36hz and give it around 70^2 of port. I will put my life on it that it will satisfy you and prob out beat the 18 but dont hold me to it.

My hole point for chiming in was the fact I was getting mad at everyone saying the L7s sound like shit and don't handle power. Ive in fact heard to L7 10 setups that sounded better than most Jl setups ive heard not all but some. Its all about the install!!!