Pair of Kicker L7 12's vs Nighshade 18

[SubNit 10+ year member]

Cuz Im working a deal for the 18 and I wanted some input on the nightshade 18!

Gotcha

Go for it! I doubt you'll be disappointed

 

[dbeez 5,000+ posts]

I dont know what the 06 looks like I dont think so though because I just bought it new in April!

oh its not then..

 

[SomeGuyDude 10+ year member]

Cuz Im working a deal for the 18 and I wanted some input on the nightshade 18!

My two cents:

Do you listen to your L7's at MAX VOLUME that often? If not, what's the problem? That 18 will look EFFING AWESOME. Way more badass than a pair of Kickers everyone with money to burn has.

 

[Ellsworthz 10+ year member]

I would guess the nightshade would get louder, and lower, and sound wayyy better than an L7

 

[Chinbruiser 10+ year member]

Hey just for the record a newb like me def appreciates all the feedback and help you guys offer on this forum!

 

[dbeez 5,000+ posts]

not a problem we love to help someone make the right decision..

 

[soundstreamer 10+ year member]

The L7s would be the louder of the two...The 18 is the right choice though.

 

[snb778 5,000+ posts]

the 18 UNDOUBTABLY can, and will get significantly louder than the 2 12" l7's that would blow off the power you can give a nightshade anyways

 

[15nissen 10+ year member]

the 18 UNDOUBTABLY can, and will get significantly louder than the 2 12" l7's that would blow off the power you can give a nightshade anyways

I would completely disagree.

In the proper install, the L7's could handle the same power and get very loud, not to mention the advantage of cone area, and more coil.

 

[spencer321 10+ year member]

288sq cone area for the L7's, 254sq on the Nightshade. L7's are SPL oriented in general.
My GUESS is the L7's will get louder, but maybe not.

you are officially banned from answering cone area questions... thats like the 3rd time you've done that

thats NOT how you calculate effective piston area, which is what matters.

using ruff assumptions of a 1.5" surround for each subwoofer and 1/3 surround piston area (some use 1/3 some use 1/2, trying to make this easy to understand) than you subtract 1" radius from the measure of the sub to calculate effective piston area. I'm not going to go into cone depth because me and audioholic discovered a long time ago it doesn't matter

anyways, using a -1" on the radius you get 10x10 + 10x10 for the L7s or 200 in^2

for the shade using -1" on the radius you get 8^2x3.14 orr 200.96in^2

now give or take on the surround measure i use and whether you use 1/2 or 1/3 of the surround in your measure, my point is they are REALLLLY CLOSE and probably negligable

 

[mlstrass 5,000+ posts]

for daily I'd take the NS as L7's sound like *** in EVERY install I've ever heard....

 

[spencer321 10+ year member]

for daily I'd take the NS as L7's sound like *** in EVERY install I've ever heard....

strass... you didn't say the HD3C 18 at that amazing 250$ price tag... im shocked, hell im almost dissappointed

 

[superbang 10+ year member]

I would completely disagree.

In the proper install, the L7's could handle the same power and get very loud, not to mention the advantage of cone area, and more coil.

Never seen an L7 handle true 1500rms or more for 1 songs length. Shouldn't doubt something I haven't seen but I'll call BS till I see some proof.

 

[Chinbruiser 10+ year member]

I know it can handle it but it sounds like crap! Ive seen it done!

 

[hrtbrk1 5,000+ posts]

i beat a guy with 2 12" L7 with one 15" Nightshade with the super stiff pack by .3 dB...he had a ford ranger and i had a jeep grand cherokee