Pacers/Pistons game

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

did anybody just watch sportscenter? they showed were artest had got hit by something while he was on the court in cleveland, and after a game in boston, and yet he didn't rush into the stands, and it isn't only detroit where shit gets thrown at players

 

[LivinLoud 10+ year member]

did anybody just watch sportscenter? they showed were artest had got hit by something while he was on the court in cleveland, and after a game in boston, and yet he didn't rush into the stands, and it isn't only detroit where shit gets thrown at players

Haha man drop this sh-t already.

Maybe Artest was tired of sh-t being thrown at him. Nobody ever said that it is only in Detroit where sh-t gets thrown at the players.

I'm pretty sure everyone has already formed their opinions. There is no sense in going over it again.

You have your opinion, everyone else has theirs.

Obviously you are exactly like Wallace and just wont let it go.

 

[joshpoints 10+ year member]

Ben Wallace is such a bi*ch.

I hope you're kidding.

The Pacers had a 15 point lead and with 40 seconds left Artest is going to give Wallace a cheap foul? Artest in the past has been known to be a dirty player. I believe he is currently on medication for his temper. Artest had it coming.

As soon as the cup was thrown from the crowd artest and the pacers should have ran off the floor, but I guess that would have hurt their manly ego.

With a 15 point lead and 40 seconds to go pacers shouldn't have even had their starters on the floor.

 

[joshpoints 10+ year member]

Your full of shit. They attacked Artest. If that shit would have missed him, then it would be a different story. But harm was done and Artest defended himself and that is that. Fans think they can do whatever they want because the seats are in between them and the players. You throw something at someone on the street, you get your *** beat, you throw something at a player, you get your *** beat. Artest was not in the wrong, the fans were.

I hope you are kidding. Someone threw a plastic cup with a liquid in it at him. Running into a crowd of over 500 people is defending yourself? Running into the locker room would have been defending themselves.

What the fan did was wrong. But a pro athlete should be above this. There was a simple solution instead he let his emotions escalate the situation.

 

[joshpoints 10+ year member]

I like Ben Wallace but what he did was some hoe shit. Ron Artest should had knocked his fro clean off for that shit. As far as the Detroit fans go wow how stupid can you be.

Are you kidding. Wallace would have beat the crap out of artest. Wallace is one solid dude.

 

[joshpoints 10+ year member]

all i can say is i back the players 100%... that white kid should have thought twice!

If you are talking about the guy with glasses, I don't think he's the one that threw the cup, it was the guy to his right. He had a cup in his hand still I believe when artest attacked him.

 

[joshpoints 10+ year member]

ok lets say i was kicking the presidient and the Secret Serivice shot me. Where they wrong for shooting me.

Kicking the president. And having a cup filled with beer land on a pro-athlete is two different things.

Instead of rising above the situation the players instead sunk below it by throwing punches.

 

[joshpoints 10+ year member]

Whoa now. You should certainly expect to be heckled, but you do not expect to have shit thrown at you. That crosses the line, and while he deserves a suspension, tossing him for a year and giving Wallace 6 games is ridiculous. David Stern has been a nazi since the frozen envelope fiasco, and he just keeps proving it.

There's a difference between wallace pushing another player and artest attacking fans.

 

[joshpoints 10+ year member]

Maybe if you werent a Detroit Pistons fan your opinion would be different.
Maybe if I was a Detroit Pistons fan my opinion would be different.

The bottom line is if Ben Wallace would have been profesional and would have just walked to the free throw line and made his little free throws NONE of this would have happened.

If artest wouldn't have made a cheap foul with 40 seconds to go and a 15 point lead none of this would have happened. If the pacers coach would have pulled his starters with a 15 point lead and under a minute to go none of this would have happened.

 

[imready77 10+ year member]

Are you kidding. Wallace would have beat the crap out of artest. Wallace is one solid dude.

muscle don't mean shit. i've seen plenty of muscular dudes get they *** whooped by smaller dudes plus, Artest and Wallace are about the same size.

 

[Gauntlet 5,000+ posts]

I hope you're kidding.
The Pacers had a 15 point lead and with 40 seconds left Artest is going to give Wallace a cheap foul? Artest in the past has been known to be a dirty player. I believe he is currently on medication for his temper. Artest had it coming.

It wasn't cheap, it was just a foul. Wallace himself threw cheaper fouls during the game, although I suppose you would have had to watched the entire game to notice this. For all your talk about Artests temper, how come he was the one constantly walking away from the fight and avoiding things, and why was Wallace the one constantly getting in people's faces, talking trash, and instigating fights?

As soon as the cup was thrown from the crowd artest and the pacers should have ran off the floor, but I guess that would have hurt their manly ego.

Actually before any of this happened the refs should have stopped the fight from moving off the court and gotten control of the situation. But for the sake of argument, have you ever played on a team? It's literally family. It's not an issue of ego.

With a 15 point lead and 40 seconds to go pacers shouldn't have even had their starters on the floor.

So why were the Pistons starters on the floor? Hell, if the Pistons just gave up and forefitted this would have never happened! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

What the fan did was wrong. But a pro athlete should be above this. There was a simple solution instead he let his emotions escalate the situation.

Why should pro atheletes be above this? Because they make a lot of money? They're paid millions to play basketball, not become emotionless robots. And really, why are you chastising Artest for letting his emotions escalate the situation when Wallace did the exact same thing? Artest had already put up with a bunch of shit and did absolutely nothing, and then in a split-second decision reacted instinctively to having someone throw shit at him. On the other hand, Wallace had numerous chances to calm down and didn't. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, eh?

 

[Str8Up 10+ year member]

Imo I think alot of black people don't like us whites. **** em!

How did the Pistons vs. Pacers game turn into some KKK garbage. Your racist "****em!" remarks aren't wanted here pal. Opinions are being belittled here, NOT skin color!

 

[joshpoints 10+ year member]

muscle don't mean shit. i've seen plenty of muscular dudes get they *** whooped by smaller dudes plus, Artest and Wallace are about the same size.

I disagree. I think wallace would take him apart. I also think wallace has a more solid build than artest.

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

It wasn't cheap, it was just a foul. Wallace himself threw cheaper fouls during the game, although I suppose you would have had to watched the entire game to notice this. For all your talk about Artests temper, how come he was the one constantly walking away from the fight and avoiding things, and why was Wallace the one constantly getting in people's faces, talking trash, and instigating fights?


Actually before any of this happened the refs should have stopped the fight from moving off the court and gotten control of the situation. But for the sake of argument, have you ever played on a team? It's literally family. It's not an issue of ego.

So why were the Pistons starters on the floor? Hell, if the Pistons just gave up and forefitted this would have never happened! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

Why should pro atheletes be above this? Because they make a lot of money? They're paid millions to play basketball, not become emotionless robots. And really, why are you chastising Artest for letting his emotions escalate the situation when Wallace did the exact same thing? Artest had already put up with a bunch of shit and did absolutely nothing, and then in a split-second decision reacted instinctively to having someone throw shit at him. On the other hand, Wallace had numerous chances to calm down and didn't. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, eh?

actually the fight between the players was over. players push each other and hit during an intense game. you think artest did not say a god **** word in the whole game to wallace? i assume you didn't watch sportscenter? when artest was hit in cleveland while he was on the court why wasn't anybody in cleveland suspended? why didn't artest run into the stands? also artest can be charged for assult because he exchanged punches with a fan, it was on the news and they intend to press charges but since artest is such a choir boy, he'll get off with nothing. why was artest dumb enough to run into hundreds of people? what if a 10 year old threw the cup would artest start beating him?

 

[joshpoints 10+ year member]

It wasn't cheap, it was just a foul. Wallace himself threw cheaper fouls during the game, although I suppose you would have had to watched the entire game to notice this. For all your talk about Artests temper, how come he was the one constantly walking away from the fight and avoiding things, and why was Wallace the one constantly getting in people's faces, talking trash, and instigating fights?


Actually before any of this happened the refs should have stopped the fight from moving off the court and gotten control of the situation. But for the sake of argument, have you ever played on a team? It's literally family. It's not an issue of ego.

So why were the Pistons starters on the floor? Hell, if the Pistons just gave up and forefitted this would have never happened! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

Why should pro atheletes be above this? Because they make a lot of money? They're paid millions to play basketball, not become emotionless robots. And really, why are you chastising Artest for letting his emotions escalate the situation when Wallace did the exact same thing? Artest had already put up with a bunch of shit and did absolutely nothing, and then in a split-second decision reacted instinctively to having someone throw shit at him. On the other hand, Wallace had numerous chances to calm down and didn't. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, eh?

I believe artest did want any piece of wallace and that's why he walked away. If you know the history of artest you would know that he is known for giving people cheap shots that could have ended their career along with getting plenty of technical fouls.

Out of respect you don't pull a guy down like artest did with 40 seconds to go, especially when you have a bad reputation like artest. You have the game won, the guy beat you on offense and now you're going to pull him down possibly injure the guy so that his team doesn't score another 2 points?

The refs were separating wallace and artest. I have played on a team and those players that went into the stands aren't very bright. How is that going to make the situation any better? It's not. You don't lunge out and try and start something with a crowd of fans that don't like your team anyway. They're fortunate it didn't get any worse than it did.

The pistons could have pulled their starters but may not have wanted to since it was a home game and the fans would have been upset.

To your last statement artest could choose between fight/flight ability, he chose to fight and escalate the situation past throwing the cup just back into the crowd but rather going into the crowd with punches. Now wallace gave artest a good shot to the chin neck area, the crowd throws a liquid on him, but artest I guess confuses the two and thinks the crowd threw the shot to his chin and neck area and decided to go give the crowd some shots.